it's too bad the markets are in the condition they are--then,perhaps you'd be busy trading instead of imagining I am "they" with some ulterior motive. This diatribe started when I replied to someone's inquiry into Andover and ProTrader. I have absolutely no knowledge of Andover. I do know-with complete certainty-that anyone who gets involved with ProTrader will be sorry. It's a company that is now a shell of itself. The final doors will be closing soon. If you still think I have some deep,dark secretive motive--well, sorry.