Protectionism ??

Imho not much in life is 100 %. Many shades of many colo(u)rs maybe.
Can or should globalisation co-exist with localisation and protectionism ? Well sometimes is my opinion. Which times you may well ask ? Ah now that is a good question.
 
Imho not much in life is 100 %. Many shades of many colo(u)rs maybe.
Can or should globalisation co-exist with localisation and protectionism ? Well sometimes is my opinion. Which times you may well ask ? Ah now that is a good question.

Yes it's a non-convex optimization problem and solution is somewhere in middle.

A smart businessman does not care about serving the society, he cares about making money. When you are trading, do you care about "adding liquidity and reducing transaction costs" or you care about your P&L?


Peter Theil wants to be close to the feeding through. Almost any true capitalist would say anything to get there (see my statement above), best exemplified by Musk's turnaround.

Globalisation is just a corollary of one of the main economic principles - specialisation. Let's take a more local example. A multi-billion hedge fund decides to hire a portfolio manager specializing in volatility arbitrage. Would it make more sense for them to hire me (20 years experience and a track record) to hire you (just starting to develop a trading strategy)? If someone out there specializes in something (manufacturing, for example) it makes more sense to hire that entity then to support a struggling albeit a local one.

PS. Buffet, apparently, agrees with me: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...nts-roadkill-who-lose-jobs-says-u-s-must-help


All market impact is not same.


When your trade is large do you not care about market impact? That is one kind of market impact.

Political impact is another kind. For Infosys, TCS, Carrier, Ford who have either stopped relocating factories or have decided to move jobs back to USA, political impact is market impact and just like a trader if they don't account for it, they know their losses will be bad. If hiring of vol trader has market impact and corporation didn't account for it, it's not good business.

And yes corporations did account for the market impact as you have already seen.
 
And yes corporations did account for the market impact as you have already seen.
Whatever they are doing, it all boils down to trying to make more money. The moment policies will become so detrimental that they will have to operate at a loss, they will abandon these operations regardless of the social cost. At least that's what sane business would do. If you want to look at the result of extreme protectionism, look at the passenger cars manufactured in Russia or the agriculture in the US. Neither can remain competitive without government subsidies and you'd have to explain to me how is it a good thing for anyone aside from a small group of workers/farmers (and politicians that court their vote).
 
Just as a matter of interest what are the US prices for :-
250 gram of butter
1 pint of milk
1 brown loaf
1 litre of petrol ( gas )
I will get our prices tomorrow at the supermarket. Brexit may raise prices a bit even though we will no longer be subsidising EU farmers.
 
Imho not much in life is 100 %. Many shades of many colo(u)rs maybe.
Can or should globalisation co-exist with localisation and protectionism ? Well sometimes is my opinion. Which times you may well ask ? Ah now that is a good question.

That's basically the Scandinavian model. They've got the highest standards of living but there's hindered opportunity to be exceptional like in America.
 
Imho not much in life is 100 %. Many shades of many colo(u)rs maybe.
Can or should globalisation co-exist with localisation and protectionism ? Well sometimes is my opinion. Which times you may well ask ? Ah now that is a good question.

Potentially moving to a Cosmopolitanism system would be a probable direction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmopolitanism
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Cosmopolitanism is a broader concept than world government




Cosmopolitanism is the ideology that all human beings belong to a single community, based on a shared morality. A person who adheres to the idea of cosmopolitanism in any of its forms is called a cosmopolitan or cosmopolite. A cosmopolitan community might be based on an inclusive morality, a shared economic relationship, or a political structure that encompasses different nations. In a cosmopolitan community individuals from different places (e.g. nation-states) form relationships of mutual respect. As an example, Kwame Anthony Appiah suggests the possibility of a cosmopolitan community in which individuals from varying locations (physical, economic, etc.) enter relationships of mutual respect despite their differing beliefs (religious, political, etc.).[1]

Various cities and locales, (such as Toronto, Los Angeles and New York), past or present, have or are defined as "cosmopolitan"; that does not necessarily mean that all or most of their inhabitants consciously embrace the above philosophy. Rather, locales could be defined as "cosmopolitan" simply by the fact of being where people of various ethnic, cultural and/or religious background live in proximity and interact with each other.
 
Whatever they are doing, it all boils down to trying to make more money. The moment policies will become so detrimental that they will have to operate at a loss, they will abandon these operations regardless of the social cost. At least that's what sane business would do. .

This is where Socialism falls flat on its face. Here in the UK Corbyn is going on with 70s and earlier failed policies. They just can't face reality but blame others.
 
Sure, a guy with business interest all over the world doesn't know anything about the world economics. But you sir an internet junkie feel qualified?
Trump is a great businessman, but he's great not because he's smart. He's a great salesman, probably the best in history. If you think that he's intelligent than you probably an idiot, I am sorry to tell you that, but it's obvious.
 
Looks like another U turn by Trump as he assures G7 that the US isn't going protectionist.
Nobody believes a word he says anyway.
 
It is in the interest of nations to adopt policies which are beneficial for them. This idea that there should be constant flow of wealth from West to poor countries, which is what globalization has essentially done, is not sustainable.

As far as capitalism goes, purest form of capitalism is actual a mafia and criminal organization. In those organization, you are not allowed to even have a life if you are not economically viable. So, unless you have succeeded in such organization don't preach capitalism for protectionism.

Sure closing the doors will increase the cost of goods and services within the country. e.g. currently I might be paying $10 for a cheap jeans, later I will have to pay $15 as there is no cheap imports anymore. But at least due to job protectionism, people will have $12 saved to think about $15 jeans.

This map comparing decline of middle class in USA vs where the globalization labor landed just shows how spurious benefits of long term labor globalization is. Middle class doesn't even have $10 to buy a jeans anymore.


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You seem to be attempting to correlate globalization to decline in the wealth of the U.S. middle class. But this correlation is mainly a U.S. effect. Other countries that are also increasingly globalized have seen the wealth and size of their middle class grow tremendously or change little. It seems that while globalization and the decline of the U.S. middle class is correlated, these factors are not related as cause and effect. As a matter of fact, it would be easier to argue that globalization has made the decline of the U.S. middle class less severe than it otherwise would have been.
 
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