Prosecutors Move For Mistrial As Jury Has Been Tainted By Clear Video Evidence Of Kyle Rittenhouse

gwb-trading said:
Remember prior to 1960 the job of police was to "keep the peace". Some departments even had this in their logos in earlier times. The idea of keeping the peace is long gone... now it is rioters ranting about defunding the police.

City governments, insurance companies and other entities all walked away from having any financial responsibility for damages during "civil unrest". It is a sad that our system since the 1960s allowed these entities to walk-away from their basic responsibilities.
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I'd be the idiot you see on TV refusing to pay my property taxes if I had one lick of damage. I would.
 
El OchoCinco said:
What if Ritti fired in a panic and it passed through a window and killed a child... is he still a hero or would the community suddenly change its mind and condemn Rittenhouse as a criminal.
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They'd probably buy him a bus ticket to Chicago.
 
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gwb-trading said:
And as noted... the miners lived in company towns. And you can bet that the company was compensated by the government and/or insurance companies for damage to their property due to striking miners who wanted to unionize.

The other theme is that the Federal government and or private security firms such as Pinkerton immediately sent in heavily armed troops or agents to deal with strikers during this era. This usually led to bloodshed and the breaking of the strike.

Today -- we merely have police who stand-down as riots encompass entire cities leading to large scale property damage and looting. They don't even call up the national guard usually in this "defund the police" era.
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So I think you’re getting out past your skis. Riots are destructive and riots have happened throughout American history. I showed you an article going through the most destructive riots. You’re going to believe what you believe and you somehow think linking liability to cities somehow will force mayors and police chiefs into taking a hardline approach is misplaced as well.

What I’m saying is all of this talk is stemming from a narrative that somehow civil unrest and rioting is worse today than ever but it’s not true. If anything law enforcement has a much better command over this stuff today than in bygone eras and that is why they don’t have to resort to brute force. But this is the narrative that somehow America is worse off today than ever when the exact opposite is true. Sometimes acting with intelligence means not engaging but corralling is the better choice for all sides when there is no ideal outcome.
 
UsualName said:
So I think you’re getting out past your skis. Riots are destructive and riots have happened throughout American history. I showed you an article going through the most destructive riots. You’re going to believe what you believe and you somehow think linking liability to cities somehow will force mayors and police chiefs into taking a hardline approach is misplaced as well.

What I’m saying is all of this talk is stemming from a narrative that somehow civil unrest and rioting is worse today than ever but it’s not true. If anything law enforcement has a much better command over this stuff today than in bygone eras and that is why they don’t have to resort to brute force. But this is the narrative that somehow America is worse off today than ever when the exact opposite is true. Sometimes acting with intelligence means not engaging but corralling is the better choice for all sides when there is no ideal outcome.
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Can you name a riot in the U.S. prior 1960 where the police and government did not take a hard-line approach?

Shiat -- in previous riots in the U.S. history they had the government bring in cannon and gattling guns to fix the situation.
 
vanzandt said:
I was actually going to mention that. Most commercial insurance policies won't indemnify for losses incurred as a result of civil unrest.
So, what's a business owner supposed to do?
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I am not 100% on board with the premise of the question. You have to look state by state and often policy by policy sometimes, but overall there have been massive payouts for damage resulting from civil unrest around the country.

I am not up for going too far into the weeds right now but the language in many of the policies refers to acts of war and insurrections versus just civil unrest.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/03/ins...r-most-insurance-policies-for-businesses.html
 
gwb-trading said:
Can you name a riot in the U.S. prior 1960 where the police and government did not take a hard-line approach?

Shiat -- in previous riots in the U.S. history they had the government bring in cannon and gattling guns to fix the situation.
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Oh no doubt the local law enforcement, state government would do all kinds of forceful countermeasures back in the day. My point is it didn’t result in less destruction and certainly not less lives lost.

However, I am not so sure how the Tulsa race riots ended and id law enforcement squashed that with force.

*It did end with national guard AFTER more than 35 square blocks were destroyed.
 
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