The US government already spends over $20B a year on climate change. How much do you think they should spend? On what specifically should they spend the money? Are you also an advocate to make Al Gore a billionaire? Do you think a massive tax on the economy that will disproportionately impact poor people is the cure for global warming?
Pros and Cons on spending on climate change
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Hysterical "... show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree ..."
Next it will be ninety nine point nine nine nine .... agree.
What is not said is that a certain percent of the so-called 97% (or more
) believe humans are directly responsible, another certain percent believe humans are indirectly responsible and another certain percent believe George Carlin caused it all before he died. :eek:Hysterical "... show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree ..."
Next it will be ninety nine point nine nine nine .... agree.
What is not said is that a certain percent of the so-called 97% (or more
Actually it is more like 99%.
There are virtually NO respected publishing climatologists that deny that man made warming is true. NONE.
Go ahead and knock yourself and find one. I keep asking jerm and he can't find one either.
http://www.jamespowell.org/Piecharts/piecharts.html
There are plenty but I won't bother because you obviously know all there is to know.Actually it is more like 99%.
There are virtually NO respected publishing climatologists that deny that man made warming is true. NONE.
Go ahead and knock yourself and find one. I keep asking jerm and he can't find one either.
http://www.jamespowell.org/Piecharts/piecharts.html
Thanks to the wonderful internet where you google whatever you want to dispute whatever you want and prove without a shadow of a doubt whatever you already know to be the ....... "truth".
No there are no respected publishing climatologists that deny that man is causing the earth to warm.
There is no science org that denies it.
You can continue to stay ignorant about it or actually research the facts.
In case you have trouble reading the story there is a podcast included. Open your mind either way.
Note: the source, not right and I believe, not left as some label NPR.
http://www.npr.org/2015/05/02/403530867/a-veteran-scientist-dreams-boldly-of-earth-and-sky
Note: the source, not right and I believe, not left as some label NPR.
http://www.npr.org/2015/05/02/403530867/a-veteran-scientist-dreams-boldly-of-earth-and-sky
Do you not understand the difference between a publishing climatologist and what Dyson is? I can see why you are confused, if you don't know what a climatologist is.
Freeman John DysonFRS (born 15 December 1923) is an English-born[5][6] theoretical physicist and mathematician, known for his work inquantum electrodynamics, solid-state physics, astronomy and nuclear engineering. Dyson is a member of the Board of Sponsors of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.[7]
So still waiting for ONE respected climatologist publishing in peer reviewed places that denies that man is causing global warming.
" I'm just saying I don't understand it and neither does anybody else. " - Perhaps a better statement would be: " I'm just saying I don't understand it and I really want to see testable proof soonest. "
" Biosphere 2 is an Earth systems science research facility. It has been owned by the University of Arizona since 2011. ... In June 2011, the University announced that it would assume full ownership of Biosphere 2, effective July 1.[9]"
Q http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
Biosphere 2 suffered from CO2 levels that "fluctuated wildly" and most of the vertebrate species and all of the pollinating insects died.[18] Insect pests, like cockroaches, boomed. In practice, ants, a companion to one of the tree species (Cecropia) in the Rain Forest, had been introduced. By 1993 the tramp ant species Paratrechina longicornis, local to the area had been unintentionally sealed in and had come to dominate.[19]
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Daily fluctuation of carbon dioxide dynamics was typically 600 ppm because of the strong drawdown during sunlight hours by plant photosynthesis, followed by a similar rise during the nighttime when system respiration dominated. As expected, there was also a strong seasonal signature to CO2 levels, with wintertime levels as high as 4,000-4,500 ppm and summertime levels near 1,000 ppm. The crew worked to manage the CO2 by occasionally turning on a CO2 scrubber, activating and de-activating the desert and savannah through control of irrigation water, cutting and storing biomass to sequester carbon, and utilizing all potential planting areas with fast-growing species to increase system photosynthesis.[24]
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Q http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS-3
BIOS-3 is a closed ecosystem at the Institute of Biophysics in Krasnoyarsk, Russia.
Its construction began in 1965, and was completed in 1972. BIOS-3 consists of a 315 m3 habitat suitable for up to three persons, and was initially used for developing closed ecosystems capable of supporting humans. It was divided into 4 compartments — one of which is a crew area. Initially one other compartment was an algal cultivator, and the other two 'phytrons' for growing wheat or vegetables. Later the algal cultivator was converted into a third phytron. A level of light comparable to sunlight was supplied in each of the 4 compartments by 20 kW xenon lamps, cooled by water jackets. The facility used 400 kW of electricity, supplied by a nearby hydroelectric power station.
Chlorella algae were used to recycle air breathed by humans, absorbing carbon dioxide and replenishing it with oxygen through photosynthesis. The algae were cultivated in stacked tanks under artificial light. To achieve a balance of oxygen and carbon dioxide, one human needed 8 m2 of exposed Chlorella. Air was purified of more complex organic compounds by heating to 600 °C in the presence of a catalyst. Water and nutrients were stored in advance and were also recycled. By 1968, system efficiency had reached 85% by recycling water. Dried meat was imported into the facility, and urine and feces were generally dried and stored, rather than being recycled.
BIOS-3 facilities were used to conduct 10 manned closure experiments with a one to three man crew. The longest experiment with a three man crew lasted 180 days (in 1972-1973). The facilities were used for the tests at least until 1984.
In 1991, BIOS-3 became a part of the International Center for Closed Ecosystems, which was formed as a subdivision of Institute of Biophysics, Russian Academy of Sciences, Siberian Branch. Closed ecosystems research focusing on growing plants and recycling waste was resumed in 2005 in cooperation with European Space Agency.
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BIOS-3 is a closed ecosystem at the Institute of Biophysics in Krasnoyarsk, Russia.
Its construction began in 1965, and was completed in 1972. BIOS-3 consists of a 315 m3 habitat suitable for up to three persons, and was initially used for developing closed ecosystems capable of supporting humans. It was divided into 4 compartments — one of which is a crew area. Initially one other compartment was an algal cultivator, and the other two 'phytrons' for growing wheat or vegetables. Later the algal cultivator was converted into a third phytron. A level of light comparable to sunlight was supplied in each of the 4 compartments by 20 kW xenon lamps, cooled by water jackets. The facility used 400 kW of electricity, supplied by a nearby hydroelectric power station.
Chlorella algae were used to recycle air breathed by humans, absorbing carbon dioxide and replenishing it with oxygen through photosynthesis. The algae were cultivated in stacked tanks under artificial light. To achieve a balance of oxygen and carbon dioxide, one human needed 8 m2 of exposed Chlorella. Air was purified of more complex organic compounds by heating to 600 °C in the presence of a catalyst. Water and nutrients were stored in advance and were also recycled. By 1968, system efficiency had reached 85% by recycling water. Dried meat was imported into the facility, and urine and feces were generally dried and stored, rather than being recycled.
BIOS-3 facilities were used to conduct 10 manned closure experiments with a one to three man crew. The longest experiment with a three man crew lasted 180 days (in 1972-1973). The facilities were used for the tests at least until 1984.
In 1991, BIOS-3 became a part of the International Center for Closed Ecosystems, which was formed as a subdivision of Institute of Biophysics, Russian Academy of Sciences, Siberian Branch. Closed ecosystems research focusing on growing plants and recycling waste was resumed in 2005 in cooperation with European Space Agency.
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