Proposed new WAR TAX

But the American tax payer is already paying for these wars in more ways than one, either directly through taxes and/or indirectly through the misguided economy which is linked into the wars.

Why not pay a separate war tax surcharge so the tax payer is constantly reminded of the wars they are funding.
 
Quote from jorgez:

But the American tax payer is already paying for these wars in more ways than one, either directly through taxes and/or indirectly through the misguided economy which is linked into the wars.

Why not pay a separate war tax surcharge so the tax payer is constantly reminded of the wars they are funding.

Make it itemized.

%Tax to protect German interests
%Tax for Afghanistan
%Tax for protecting Saudi Sheiks
%Tax for protecting Japan
%Tax For Iraq

etc..
 
Quote from KINGOFSHORTS:

War is not free. If Americans want is policing the world and fighting permawars, There should be a war tax.

Maybe when people have to pay a special War tax folks will not be in such a rush to go and have stupid wars like the Iraq war, or permawars etc...

Really? There is. It's called an income tax. The politicians like to use said tax collected from the population as their own personal slush fund and to buy the votes of the people they just robbed.

Wars cost nothing compared to the cost of political hubris.
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

ALL BULLSHIT! We are up to our eyes in debt now... we can't afford ANYTHING!

We can't win the war on terror... they are spread too thin, we don't know where to attack to eliminate them.. even if we did, they'd just move and spread out even further.

We should let everybody fight their own battles and bring our troops home to defend our borders as necessary. We can afford to do no other... :( :(

The Romans went broke trying to defend their "vast empire"... we're doing the same as "policeman to the world", trying to fight a nebulous terrorist enemy.

i agree as usual. it is not a cost effective war in comparison to others. don't get me wrong no war is inexpensive but afghanistan is worse. partly because it is so far away and the conditions change.

incidentally in relation to your roman empire link did you know the productivity in the roman empire was not matched until the 19th century. so nearly one and a half thousand years and the productivity was not equalled. think about now if the same happens.
 
Quote from morganist:

i agree as usual. it is not a cost effective war in comparison to others. don't get me wrong no war is inexpensive but afghanistan is worse. partly because it is so far away and the conditions change.

incidentally in relation to your roman empire link did you know the productivity in the roman empire was not matched until the 19th century. so nearly one and a half thousand years and the productivity was not equalled. think about now if the same happens.

It will not happen.

The gap between US and other countries is too close despite the apparent gap? in the military
 
Here's the real question:

Do you want to continue your way of life as you know it? Do you understand that cheap and available oil is what makes the world go round, what makes your house worth what it is, allows you to drive a truck that gets 17 mpg, gives you the opportunity to inexpensively see Hawaii, Disneyland, or wherever else you want to go?

Given our way of producing food - which is very petroleum intensive from petrochemicals, diesel trucks, transportation on average of over 1,000 miles to the supermarket... that too would be impacted by an oil shock.

Do you prefer China or Russia to be the "occupiers" of the Middle East?

Our gdp to a large extent, is based on oil being at a certain price. We are less than 5% of the world's population, and we need about 25% of the current global oil production. Historically, when oil cost is 4% of GDP, we typically fall into recession. Needless to say, we are quite vulnerable right now due to this severe recession/depression. We can't handle oil getting too high.

Are you willing to put up with sky high unemployment, more so than now, because China decides it will fight a war on terror in the Middle East and ensure she gets the oil first before anyone else?

Understand what's at stake. It's not just some elites making money... we average folk have skin in the game.

I'm not necessarily saying I'm pro the current Middle East military engagement/policy.... I'm just framing the issue the way I see it. Afghanistan and Iraq are two of the most strategic locations in the world. They border Iran, and lie between the Persian Gulf and Caspian Sea basin. That's some important real estate. He who controls that area, controls the world. Let that area go, and someone else will control it. And you will pay that price accordingly.

You want the truth? That's the truth.
 
Has Obama done anything he said he would do? End these wars. Make a run at these scum bags in Pakistan or bring um home. This is ridiculous. Corporate wars, and they want us to pay for it. Make the defense industry pay for it. F em.
 
Quote from Misthos:

Here's the real question:

Do you want to continue your way of life as you know it? Do you understand that cheap and available oil is what makes the world go round, what makes your house worth what it is, allows you to drive a truck that gets 17 mpg, gives you the opportunity to inexpensively see Hawaii, Disneyland, or wherever else you want to go?

Given our way of producing food - which is very petroleum intensive from petrochemicals, diesel trucks, transportation on average of over 1,000 miles to the supermarket... that too would be impacted by an oil shock.

Do you prefer China or Russia to be the "occupiers" of the Middle East?

Our gdp to a large extent, is based on oil being at a certain price. We are less than 5% of the world's population, and we need about 25% of the current global oil production. Historically, when oil cost is 4% of GDP, we typically fall into recession. Needless to say, we are quite vulnerable right now due to this severe recession/depression. We can't handle oil getting too high.

Are you willing to put up with sky high unemployment, more so than now, because China decides it will fight a war on terror in the Middle East and ensure she gets the oil first before anyone else?

Understand what's at stake. It's not just some elites making money... we average folk have skin in the game.

I'm not necessarily saying I'm pro the current Middle East military engagement/policy.... I'm just framing the issue the way I see it. Afghanistan and Iraq are two of the most strategic locations in the world. They border Iran, and lie between the Persian Gulf and Caspian Sea basin. That's some important real estate. He who controls that area, controls the world. Let that area go, and someone else will control it. And you will pay that price accordingly.

You want the truth? That's the truth.

astute as usual. i agree with what you say. the problem is whether we like it or not those things are going to go any way because of rising population, eventual oil shortages and lack of recycling. it is just a matter of time.
 
Quote from crash n burn:

there is no such thing as WAR ON TERROR

it is just an excuse to keep fueling the industrial military complex with trillions of dollar and justify occupying foreign countries and secure natural resources at expense of human lives and pain of thousands of people.

I guess some of you guys forgot about 9/11 and the 3100 folks that died that day. Wasn't that why we went to Afganistan?

OldTrader
 
Quote from Angrycat:

idiotic.

... Defense spending is a paltry fraction of all government spending - including the increases resulting from war.

If government stops robbing productive members of society to fund politicians' pet entitlement programs, we could afford to go to war with the whole world...

Have you lost your fucking mind!?
 
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