Proof that Israel is #1 theat to our freedom

[a_person]

Quote from SNBthetrue:

Dear Mom0/pH0x,

On the subject, I wanted to know your thoughts on my 2 questions regarding what raises neturei karta regarding isreal.

The first is : do you think that isreal is a secular state, like usa or france, I mean trying to safeguard Religion as personnal matter ?



The second, totally opposed ( ), is about this video :

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In it, this agressive boy, says : "this is my land! God gave it to me!"

that's where come my quest of the 10 commandments from.

If I am right the first one is : "I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before Me..."

Furthermore if only God could have brought them to this land... as it's clearly believable that it's only trough His help that it was possible to escape from "egypt"... So I must say that if he think that God gave it to him, he is better off realizing that it will be God who will take it from him too...

As this boy, in this video ( which I don't know the integrity ), is in patent violation of the followings commandments, " 6 Do not murder" ( at least he only speaks, and behave himself without physical violences , ( PEACE ) ), and " 8 Do not steal." ( I hope that he paids the previous landowner the price that they asked, if not it's stealing, no debate possible here ). So how do you view this video and my comments and how the opinion of this boy are present in israel : ? Others posters are welcome too

LOL, another anti-Israel clown posting same old anti-Israel youtube/Pallywood crap and pretending to be an unbiased and clueless observer. LOL, when are you degenerates going to come up with new tricks, you're not fooling anyone.

Oh and unlike 50 muslim countries, England, Argentina, Monaco, Switzerland, Greece, Cyrus, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Norway and dozens of other countries, unlike all of them Israel is a secular democracy without an official religion.

Drop dead asshole.

 

[sameeh55]

Quote from a_person:

LOL, another anti-Israel clown posting same old anti-Israel youtube/Pallywood crap and pretending to be an unbiased and clueless observer. LOL, when are you degenerates going to come up with new tricks, you're not fooling anyone.

Oh and unlike 50 muslim countries, England, Argentina, Monaco, Switzerland, Greece, Cyrus, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Norway and dozens of other countries, unlike all of them Israel is a secular democracy without an official religion.

Drop dead asshole.

Hi a-person,

You are losing credibility to come up with such claim when all people need to do is to check the makeup of the present Israeli government only to find out that second and the third biggest parties (Israel Baytona and Shas) in Neten's coalition government are ultra right-wing cultic Jewish religious groups.

Why do you act with rude hostility whenever someone exposes your fascist state?

Regards,

Sameeh

 

[SNBthetrue]

Dear Sameeh55 and Mom0/pH0x,

I am really sorry to have put you in face of a choice that you couldn't make.

However a_person doesn't have this chance to be helped, but a least he has the Freedom to say what he wants ! That's even more funny, because it's the only way to see how lost he is.

Quote from sameeh55:
You are losing credibility to come up with such claim when all people need to do is to check the makeup of the present Israeli government only to find out that second and the third biggest parties (Israel Baytona and Shas) in Neten's coalition government are ultra right-wing cultic Jewish religious groups.

Why do you act with rude hostility whenever someone exposes your fascist state?

Dear sameeh55,

I want to react about your comment.

1) So if they are ultra right-wing cultic Jewish religious groups I hope that they at least follow the 10 commandments. If not they can't be named a Jewish religious groups... I am a little bit hard. But man honnestly... ( or I didn't understand anything ).

2) Israel can't be a fasicst state. For me the 1st criteria of a fasicst state is to do bad to his own people. Isreal is respecting democracy and the view of this people... ( that's even worse... ).

Quote from a_person:

LOL, another anti-Israel clown posting same old anti-Israel youtube/Pallywood crap and pretending to be an unbiased and clueless observer. LOL, when are you degenerates going to come up with new tricks, you're not fooling anyone.

Oh and unlike 50 muslim countries, England, Argentina, Monaco, Switzerland, Greece, Cyrus, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Norway and dozens of other countries, unlike all of them Israel is a secular democracy without an official religion.

Drop dead asshole.

Hey a_person,

You are quite funny. That's what's good with freedom of speech, you can always watch the fool fall ... and as we build skyscrappers, it's nearly free fall .

1) What's Pallywood ? close to the Hollywood, I hope ?

2) Youtube = you to be... don't be afraid.

3) I am more happy than ever to see that you weren't fooled by my question

 

[sameeh55]

Quote from SNBthetrue:

Dear sameeh55,

I want to react about your comment.

1) So if they are ultra right-wing cultic Jewish religious groups I hope that they at least follow the 10 commandments. If not they can't be named a Jewish religious groups... I am a little bit hard. But man honnestly... ( or I didn't understand anything ).

Not necessarily, the Military Rabi who ordered his solders to kill Gazan children and not to be merciful with civilians would most likely kill you if you told him that he is not a Jew.

The Israeli settler who for the fun of it blew the head of a taxi driver and murdered innocent shepherd, placed a bomb near a convent west of Jerusalem, sent a bomb disguised as a gift for the Jewish holiday of Purim to a family of messianic Jews, carried a bomb attack which lightly wounded the left-wing Israeli academic Zeev Sternhell, placed a bomb in a police station in an attempted attack which police say was aimed at diverting them from providing security for gay pride parades, laid an explosive device next to a Palestinian home near the West Bank settlement of Eli, put poisonous antifreeze in three bottles of juice and leaving them near a Palestinian village in the hope of poisoning a passer-by would disagree with you and possibly kill you for accusing him of not being a good Jew! According to him, "It's been a pleasure and an honour to serve my God," he said, "God is proud of what I have done, I have no regrets".

The Israeli soldiers and pilots who prayed just before launching phosphoric bombs attack on civilian neighborhoods and UN compound would probably kill you for accusing him of not being Jews.


2) Israel can't be a fasicst state. For me the 1st criteria of a fasicst state is to do bad to his own people. Isreal is respecting democracy and the view of this people... ( that's even worse... ).

Not necessarily! Yisrael Beitenu, the second largest party in the present Israeli coalition government, ran on a campaign slogan of “no loyalty, no citizenship.” Who is disloyal? This is to be determined by Yisrael Beitenu. We’ve already gotten some idea of who Lieberman considers disloyal – he tried to have both of the Arab parties banned. These two parties gained about 200 000 votes in the elections: perhaps these 200 000 voters are all disloyal. Indeed, Lieberman has actually invoked in the Israeli press a “right of expulsion”. Lieberman is a wink and a nudge away from promising that he will also, given the chance, “clean Eretz Yisrael”, so that “there will not be a single cockroach around here.” Indeed, the Israeli press, revealed to a largely indifferent public that Lieberman used to belong to Kach.

All you need to do is to listen to some of a_person's comments to get an idea of how deep fascism is rooted in the Zionist movement. Any descending views, any opposing views will have you lose your job, labeled as anti Semite or other labels. In Israel, people were fired from their jobs for speaking the truth and opposing the state.

 

[SNBthetrue]

thank you sameeh55,

"God does all these things to a man-twice, even there times to turn back his soul from the pit, that the light of life may shine on him" ( JOB 33:29-30 )

The God Rules :

- Don't do to some one what you don't want he does to you
+ Do to some one what you want he does to you

( it's called LOVE )

Follow the middle path, apply PEACE... and you will LIVE.

KISS by M0S

 

[a_person]

Quote from sameeh55:

all people need to do is to check the makeup of the present Israeli government only to find out that second and the third biggest parties (Israel Baytona and Shas) in Neten's coalition government are ultra right-wing cultic Jewish religious groups.

LOL, don't be silly sameeh, you can probably fool a few morons with these stupid statements but that's exactly why you end up with idiots, ignoramuses and clowns only on your side.

The presence of religious people or parties in the government does not prevent the state from being secular. The existence of an official religion does. The US, Israel and many other states don't have an official religion and are therefore secular states, the entire muslim world, Norway, Switzerland, Finland, England, Greece and many other civilized western countries are not.

Keep trying buddy, I am truly happy that all the ET morons (Zzzz, TT2, this new french-speaking clown SNBthetrue, etc) are on your side. You're getting exactly what you bargain for.

 

[Tresor]

Quote from SNBthetrue:

1) So if they are ultra right-wing cultic Jewish religious groups I hope that they at least follow the 10 commandments. If not they can't be named a Jewish religious groups... I am a little bit hard. But man honnestly... ( or I didn't understand anything ).

Yeah, but they also have Talmud, which among other things permits killing non-Jewish. And even permits raping 3 year old babies. When you analyse how Jewish leaders behave they rather follow Talmudic religious laws (but of course they do not necessiarly rape 3 year old babies):

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Quote from SNBthetrue:

2) Israel can't be a fasicst state. For me the 1st criteria of a fasicst state is to do bad to his own people. Isreal is respecting democracy and the view of this people... ( that's even worse... ).

There has never been a concensus among historians of what fascism really was / is. There is no generaly accepted definition of fascism.

There are three categories of peoples in Israel:

(i) Ashkenazi Jews (non-Semites) - a mixture of white an yellow race who lived in Central Asia / Southern Europe and converted to Judaism around year 840- these are the master people;

(ii) Sephardic Jews (Semites) - a mixture of black and white race - these are second class citizens. Sameeh posted a number of clips about how Sephardic Jews have been discriminated in Israel just because their skin is not white enough;

(iii) Palestinians (Semites) - original Jews who converted to Islam centuries ago because of tax incentives (Islam believers had not have to pay taxes at that time in Palestine) - these are treated worst than animals by the master Ashkenazi peoples.

The (ii) and (iii) are treated really badly by Israel.

 

[SNBthetrue]

Quote from Tresor:

Yeah, but they also have Talmud

Dear Tresor,

Thank you very much. Again my ignorance cover me!

I didn't know about this Talmud and I will not watch for now this video...

Personnaly, I am born a Christian. It's were my type of education come from... and the questions derivated... I would like to say that I don't want to hurt anyone by my words.

However I know only one thing about the jewish religion, and for me it says it all:

From which heritage does come the Mother of Jesus Christ ?

Always remember that it's the Mothers that raise the children.

 

[Tresor]

Quote from SNBthetrue:

I didn't know about this Talmud and I will not watch for now this video...

Talmudic law is the religious law that also governs non-religious issues for Jews like e.g. food. Some adhere to Talmudic laws, some do not. Some rules in Talmud are wise and some are stupid by today's standards.

Same case is with Sharia. It is a religious law for Muslims that also covers non-religious areas, like food. And again some legal rules in Sharia are wise and some are stupid.

In Western world happily nobody cares for excomunications and othe stuff by the church, otherwise we would get circumised, we would be deprived of delicious pork and yet some other pleasures of life

 

[sameeh55]

Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

tresor, please quit embarrassing yourself. you have no clue what you are talking about. jewish dietary laws come from the torah.

Hi Mom0,

Are you sure?

Separation of Meat and Dairy
On three separate occasions, the Torah tells us not to "boil a kid in its mother's milk." (Ex. 23:19; Ex. 34:26; Deut. 14:21). The Oral Torah explains that this passage prohibits eating meat and dairy together. The rabbis extended this prohibition to include not eating milk and poultry together. In addition, the Talmud prohibits cooking meat and fish together or serving them on the same plates, because it is considered to be unhealthy. It is, however, permissible to eat fish and dairy together, and it is quite common (lox and cream cheese, for example). It is also permissible to eat dairy and eggs together.

Meat and dairy products may not be combined or eaten at the same meal. Although the Torah merely prohibits boiling a goat in its mother's milk (Ex. 23:19; Ex. 34:26; Deut. 14:21), the Talmud interprets this as forbidding meat and dairy to be eaten together. However, fish with dairy or eggs with dairy are permitted. The Yiddish words fleishig (meat), milshig (dairy) are used to designate foods for which this law must be kept in mind. Even the smallest amounts of meat or dairy matter, so margarine (which uses small amounts of whey) would be considered a dairy product for kashrut purposes. Pareve (neutral) designates foods that contain neither meat nor dairy and can therefore be eaten with either one.

Regards,

Sameeh