Proof of How Universal Mask Wearing Stops Covid Spread ?

[wrbtrader]

Wear your face mask to protect your family, friends and strangers that come near you. That's what Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and Vietnam have been doing since Day 1 along with other things to tag team and kick Covid in the ass:

• Close Borders when their outbreaks in other countries

• Test all arrivals into the country and then quarantine to home

• Quarantine those infected

• Contact Tracing

• Social Distance

Those countries are kicking Covid in the ass and its not because they waste their time being a dickless coward (Covid Denier) online in stupid debates.

By the way Covidiots...get vaccinated instead of trying to bring the country down because some of you Covidiots act like you've been eating shit too long that you can not even recognize many states are improving because of the vaccinations.

You can thank the Biden / Harris administration vaccine distribution plan for the record setting pace on vaccinating Americans so that restrictions (e.g. face mask requirements) can begun to be lifted, vaccinated people can travel, vaccinated people can have others into their home.

Like Biden stated...you're going to enjoy your July 4th celebrations.

wrbtrader

 

[UsualName]

I see logic is finally sinking in! It's been a struggle for you, I know. Both the statistics of the matter and observation tell us that universal compliance works, but just a few Jackass Lunatics at a White House Rose Garden affair makes the compliance of others less effective. The only comforting thought is that while these lunatics selfishly increase the chances of everyone else dying from Covid, the probability of themselves dying from it is higher.

I don’t know if you’re speaking to someone or if this is a general comment but what I think is important coming up in the near future is we are entering into a haves vs have nots phase. Meaning people who have been vaccinated and people who have not been vaccinated.

In terms of spreading and infecting other people, we are at a point where you can choose to get vaccinated, it’s available to everyone now. And sometime after the next 6 weeks or so those who have not gotten vaccinated will be the ones dealing with Covid while the rest of America moves on, barring some variant that throws the whole world into an India situation.

The mask issue is getting near moot in the near future. So I’m not so interested in this issue for too much longer. My concern is a lot of people have been taking for granted the protection they’ve been getting from mitigation efforts and they are going to expose themselves to a possibly experimental respiratory disease that has significant long term effects on a large percentage of people that range from lung scarring to blood clots to mental health and neurological disorders. It’s going to get pretty ugly some time after July for a lot of people who get their information from Facebook.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I see logic is finally sinking in! It's been a struggle for you, I know. Both the statistics of the matter and observation tell us that universal compliance works, but just a few Jackass Lunatics at a White House Rose Garden affair makes the compliance of others less effective. The only comforting thought is that while these lunatics selfishly increase the chances of everyone else dying from Covid, the probability of themselves dying from it is higher.

Happy to have a debate on logic any time, just tell me where to show up. You seem to run off when we attempt them, though.

Glad to know you're still nursing your TDS. Let me know if you'd like to have a "logical" conversation on COVID.

 

[jem]

what a troll from a "scientist"

a. prove it was masks... have you seen all the charts that Tsing posted showing covid exploding after mask mandates...
does that mean masks also caused the spread
correlation does not prove causation.
I theorize that its locking down the borders which did the work.

b. please show the studies documenting statistically useful asymptomatic spread... not with models but contact tracing.

you will see it is rare... if it even exists.

virtually all the spread is like this..

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/...is-low-here-s-what-you-need-to-know-1.5997300

"In the third wave, it is abundantly clear the people who are getting infected and sick enough to come in are those with heavy, prolonged indoor exposure," he told White Coat, Black Art and The Dose host Dr. Brian Goldman. "It's almost exclusively from high-density work settings or the family members thereof, or high-density living settings, such as shelters."

"This is part of the reason why I'm such a proponent of trying to mitigate risk and move things outdoors," he said.

If you believe that, then why did you insist wearing a mask was a waste of time?, when there was no way for you to tell during the incubation period whether you were infected or not and quite a few infected have been reported as asymptomatic. You know all that. So why did you persist in claiming that wearing a mask was not effective when it plainly is. Just look at the results in Asian countries where there is virtually universal compliance with mask wearing. We all know that during the incubation period there is no way other than testing to know whether you are infected. We also know that, until recently, the way testing was handled in the U.S. was nothing short of ridiculous. In the U.S. two things are saving us: Death and a beautifully coordinated Vaccination Program once Biden took over. You, Trump and Moscow Mitch make a great team -- consistently illogical, all three of you!

 

[Nine_Ender]

I have been correct about virtually everything but one thing... and that was that Sweden was done dying. ( that was before the variants spread.)

however... on every other major point... I not only have not changed my arguments... the data is coming out to show I was correct.
(and its not because I am saying I was smart... I am saying I followed the data and knew bullshit when I heard it. )


for instance...

a. we could get immunity...
your team especially that moron gwb argued against that for months

b. virtually zero documented outdoor spread.
your team's morons are still arguing against that as the doctors and the media are shifting the narrative to match mine (which is based on data) ... particularly that douchebag Fauci who this week said we have known he risk outdoors is really really low for a long time.

c. masks don't protect the wearer... your teams douchebags were arguing with me on that for months on that too... now you almost all accept it and say the purpose of masks is to stop the wearer from spreading. (even though that is questionable in real life as well.)

d. asymptomatic spread

For months I was saying there is very little or zero documented spread by asymptomatics...
your team has been acting like asymptomatic spread is common for about a year.
But... the data is coming out... like we saw on this thread today.



https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/...is-low-here-s-what-you-need-to-know-1.5997300

"In the third wave, it is abundantly clear the people who are getting infected and sick enough to come in are those with heavy, prolonged indoor exposure," he told White Coat, Black Art and The Dose host Dr. Brian Goldman. "It's almost exclusively from high-density work settings or the family members thereof, or high-density living settings, such as shelters."


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So you are lying your ass off when you say I have been shifting.
Your team... is starting to come up with the facts which prove I and a few others here have been correct since about the third week..

Your side is shifting to match what I have been stating the whole time.

LOL, you have literally been wrong about everything except some of the stuff you revised once it became obvious even to a dolt like you that you were wrong. And you have been shifting your narrative more then any poster on this site.

You were pushing natural herd immunity and the Swedish approach HARD last year. The Swedes have now admitted their approach totally failed, and the only reason Covid is dropping now in the US is vaccine related immunity.

You also frequently posted that Canada was "exploding" in Covid. So genius, tell me again, why does the US have triple the Covid numbers of Canada overall ?. I know why, but I also know you will never admit to the reasons why.

At this point you've become comical in nature, a denier who drank the Koolaid and wants another pitcher.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

what a troll from a "scientist"

a. prove it was masks... have you seen all the charts that Tsing posted showing covid exploding after mask mandates...
does that mean masks also caused the spread
correlation does not prove causation.
I theorize that its locking down the borders which did the work.

b. please show the studies documenting statistically useful asymptomatic spread... not with models but contact tracing.

you will see it is rare... if it even exists.

virtually all the spread is like this..

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/...is-low-here-s-what-you-need-to-know-1.5997300

"In the third wave, it is abundantly clear the people who are getting infected and sick enough to come in are those with heavy, prolonged indoor exposure," he told White Coat, Black Art and The Dose host Dr. Brian Goldman. "It's almost exclusively from high-density work settings or the family members thereof, or high-density living settings, such as shelters."

"This is part of the reason why I'm such a proponent of trying to mitigate risk and move things outdoors," he said.

Excellent posting.

 

[jem]

Covid did explode in Canada moron... the second wave was larger than the first.
And now you have third..

What a moron you are.


Sweden has outperformed many Euro countries... and they did not lock down while some have had to lock down multiple times.

Texas and Florida have outperformed many US states.

Immunity is real... no on denies it...now.

LOL, you have literally been wrong about everything except some of the stuff you revised once it became obvious even to a dolt like you that you were wrong. And you have been shifting your narrative more then any poster on this site.

You were pushing natural herd immunity and the Swedish approach HARD last year. The Swedes have now admitted their approach totally failed, and the only reason Covid is dropping now in the US is vaccine related immunity.

You also frequently posted that Canada was "exploding" in Covid. So genius, tell me again, why does the US have triple the Covid numbers of Canada overall ?. I know why, but I also know you will never admit to the reasons why.

At this point you've become comical in nature, a denier who drank the Koolaid and wants another pitcher.

 

[wrbtrader]

LOL, you have literally been wrong about everything except some of the stuff you revised once it became obvious even to a dolt like you that you were wrong. And you have been shifting your narrative more then any poster on this site.

You were pushing natural herd immunity and the Swedish approach HARD last year. The Swedes have now admitted their approach totally failed, and the only reason Covid is dropping now in the US is vaccine related immunity.

You also frequently posted that Canada was "exploding" in Covid. So genius, tell me again, why does the US have triple the Covid numbers of Canada overall ?. I know why, but I also know you will never admit to the reasons why.

At this point you've become comical in nature, a denier who drank the Koolaid and wants another pitcher.

Yes...he was pushing Natural Herd Immunity and he still has not admitted that it failed after the Swedish Health Officials, Government and Tegnell himself has admitted that their "Covid health policy" had failed the Swedish people.

• The strange aspect of this is not jem and a few others that pushed Natural Herd Immunity...

It's that the Swedish Health Officials and Tegnell have been backtracking since late fall 2020 that they were not using Natural Herd Immunity. It's as if they want no accountability for the Covid Health Policy that they "experimented" on the Swedish people.

That then prompt investigations by the government into what in the hell where they doing after costing so many lives.

Just as strange...the Swedish health officials, government and Tegnell compared their Covid performances to their Scandinavian neighbors (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland)....countries that easily outperformed Sweden and still do today.

The strange aspect with the above, jem and others refuse to do the same as if they're trying to sweep it under the rug although Sweden itself has been very upfront about the performances of their Scandinavian countries.

jem hides it further via comparing Sweden to other countries that are not Scandinavian.

I then tested their hypocrisy via then comparing Sweden to countries that did not lockdown or to countries that had face mask mandates...Sweden grossly underperformed all those countries in Covid infections / Deaths.

They came up with excuses why comparing Sweden to countries like South Korea is not fair.

With all that said, every country mentioned above (Japan, South Korea, Norway, Denmark, Finland, New Zealand, Taiwan, Vietnam) are all doing well and Sweden's recent Covid performances has been very good too.

• What's everybody arguing again considering the United States is slowly lifting CDC guidelines for face mask, countries getting vaccinated ?

I forgot considering the performance are good now especially the United States has been improving fast with the exception of a few states and the world has been improving with the exception of a few countries (e.g. India and Brazil).

Vaccinated Herd Immunity is successful

Natural Herd Immunity has failed

End of Story

wrbtrader

 

[Tsing Tao]

So genius, tell me again, why does the US have triple the Covid numbers of Canada overall ?.

 

[gwb-trading]

Covid did explode in Canada moron... the second wave was larger than the first.
And now you have third..

What a moron you are.


Sweden has outperformed many Euro countries... and they did not lock down while some have had to lock down multiple times.

Texas and Florida have outperformed many US states.

Immunity is real... no on denies it...now.

Yet the number of COVID deaths in Canada everyday are half the number in Florida --- while Canada has over 50% more people.

Sounds like the "surge" in Canada is what Florida would call a "good day".