Project 2025

[Bugenhagen]

Problem with Pakman,TYT,Kyle etc is they spend 95% of their time criticizing Biden/ conservative democrats than tell you you still have to vote for them because the republican is worse.Anna said we would still need to support Senima in 2024(This was before Gallego entered the race to be fair).No wonder they cant keep a faithful audience or grow to the levels of the scumbags on the right.I stopped watching all of them.

People who listen to Pakman are easily bright enough to understand spoiler candidates and greater evils. Ana has addressed this many times I have heard myself.

If you say you have to just coz, too starkly then you talk down to people and lose them. I know this as I lose people all the time.

 

[Cuddles]

People who listen to Pakman are easily bright enough to understand spoiler candidates and greater evils. Ana has addressed this many times I have heard myself.

If you say you have to just coz, too starkly then you talk down to people and lose them. I know this as I lose people all the time.

the world would be best served if pipe dreaming utopians adopted utilitarianism instead. Unless they're just disingenuous anarchists, in which case, appeals to reason is just arguing in bad faith.

 

[Tony Stark]

the world would be best served if pipe dreaming utopians adopted utilitarianism instead. Unless they're just disingenuous anarchists, in which case, appeals to reason is just arguing in bad faith.

Dems recently had all 3 branches and many times before that. Roe /AA overturned, no universal healthcare,The SC is 6-9 GOP,no police reform,no free state college, taxes on the rich are lower than ever,immigration policy a disaster etc.Many disagree that voting Dem is adapting utilitarianism.

 

[Bugenhagen]

the world would be best served if pipe dreaming utopians adopted utilitarianism instead. Unless they're just disingenuous anarchists, in which case, appeals to reason is just arguing in bad faith.

I guess, achieving the greater good is the core of any realistic society though social justice has to be in there as it is good for the greater to care about this.

As a largely Epicurean I believe we need a good bit of fucking misery to appreciate the goodness.

More good for all and their fair or unfair share of FTW days too

 

[Bugenhagen]

Dems recently had all 3 branches and many times before that. Roe /AA overturned, no universal healthcare,The SC is 6-9 GOP,no police reform,no free state college, taxes on the rich are lower than ever,immigration policy a disaster etc.Many disagree that voting Dem is adapting utilitarianism.

 

[Tony Stark]

 

[Bugenhagen]

I have seen a problem with humans generally. When there is a problem and there is an obvious root clause that needs a simple fix, talkers talk and the foundational issue gets forgotten.

Things like campaign finance reform and such.. But I have an idea that never gets any traction. The party whip is too powerful, the speakers are too powerful. People elected representatives looking at them with an eye to their ability to get things done and represent their voters but then a handful tell the reps how to vote.

End the whip. In a representative democracy the representatives must operate under direct democracy.

 

[Bugenhagen]

The easiest way to control party members is by making them desperate for money which you as the leader have a very big thumb on. So political finance reform is not desirable to party leaders.

One can blame Gingrich, Rove and others for unified national platform, Pelosi and others but what would actually be involved with taking the whip, now a galley slave lash from them?

Could it be a simple thing?

 

[Bugenhagen]

In Germany, the Bundestag (the German federal parliament) has a rule that allows any MP to demand a secret ballot, even on a vote that the party leadership has instructed MPs to vote on openly. This rule is intended to protect MPs from feeling pressured to vote in line with the party line, even if they disagree with it.

 

[Tony Stark]

Meet you halfway.

Anything but Trump, Ramashitty or DeSantos 2024?

I'd totally be fine with West, its just Kanye West I'm afraid will get in instead.

I haven't completely ruled out voting for Kanye,something tells me this guy might be a good president.