Quote from vhehn:
give us a break. there is no way prof would go through this kind of grief about his record and still refuse to put up any proof if he actually had anything good to show. he is just here fishing for newbees. its our duty to warn them.
I offered to give marketsurfer first hand information to show him in detail what I do and to apply it in front of him but he's too busy. He would rather judge from the outside then have someone prove his belief system wrong first hand. I believe that first hand information is better than some potentially altered document.
And sorry to disappoint you but I only have two classes left before I retire and one is full and the other is on the far side of the earth. I committed to a year of travel and classes and that year is up in May. There is more money in trading than teaching. Less stress & headaches as well dealing with closed minded individuals too.
As Charlie Dow I've never mentioned who I am, my website, never responded to any PM's with that info nor never mentioned what I do. Of course those with a total lack of common sense WOULD find that fishing. As ProfLogic my last post was over 7 months ago.
You offered to come since you were in Orlando I think. I might have offered you a free spot if you wouldn't have been such a closed minded jerk and would more than likely have been a disturbance to the others there to learn. There will be people there from all over the world and most are there by referral. All are there to learn. I teach a self-verifying method of trading not pattern recognition or a "trust me" method that everyone else spews. You wouldn't know or understand that because you know no other way to trade and are not open to looking at anything not contained in your small little box.
What I teach could be the most off the wall ridiculous garbage on the face of the earth but you will never know because you are scared to look at it. Scared of what you might see. Scared it might be something you don't want it to be. Scared it may work. If it's garbage by looking at it and assessing it, you could tell the whole world . . . I saw it and it was horse shit, so why not just look at it to make an intelligent informed decision. Because that would be too hard. It is much easy to blindly say it is crap without even knowing what it is.
I get a real hoot out of the individuals that say, "100% profitability is delusional". Hell, I would too because that is not what I have ever said. Of course you can take things out of context and make the words say anything you want. What I have always maintained is that everytime a trader makes a decision to trade he needs to be 100% confident that the trade he or she is taking is 100% correct in their assessment of the Market at that particular moment. The only way a trader can KNOW their trade decisions are always right is to look at what happens in price movement that is consistent. And let me tell you there are perfect consistencies in price movement. My responsibility is to simply show you those consistencies, a trader's responsibility is to watch the Market from that point on to learn to see where and when those consistencies manifest themselves. By watching them develop a trader learns to trust his own eyes not what ANYONE tells him to look for or Fib calculations that work SOMETIMES or Elliott wave crap that works SOMETIMES or Gann crap that works SOMETIMES . . . not even ME. He can see for himself what happens in price ALL OF THE TIME.
It is near impossible for anyone to be correct in their trading outcomes 100% of the time. It IS possible that a person's trading DECISIONS can come very near 100% accuracy though. Even if a person's trading DECISIONS are 100% accurate (based on the CONFIRMED direction the Market is going at any given moment) that doesn't mean they will be profitable 100% of the time. If the Market begins to consolidate immediately after entering a trade, the potential of a small loss exits but when you assess the Market from strict parameters, you will realize the Markets only unmanageably consolidate about 10% of the time. These again are things a traders verifies for themselves. It is nothing they blindly "trust" from being told by someone else.
Over the last couple of years hanging out in this and other forums a number of individuals have picked up information from me that has helped them add consistency to their trading. Others have weakly and loosely tried to learn it but due to either not strictly applying what I've showed them or adding stuff to it, their outcomes have been less than they had wanted or expected. Which is understandable and let me explain.
I teach a trader to "View" the perfect consistencies of price movement and then make trading decisions based on that consistency. It takes months of watching the Markets to see and TRUST those consistencies in order to be able to make trading decision on them that will be as consistent. If a trader adds studies or parameters to their charts the consistencies will disappear in the clutter. The focus on the simplicity is lost. The other problem is "Impatience". A trader will try to trade those consistencies a week or two after being told watch to look for. They will have little or no experience in seeing what they need to look for and no confidence in those occurrences happening either. The outcome of their attempts at immediate application are sheer failure. In either case they immediate assess that what I teach doesn't work and I am an idiot instead of doing their due diligence at following my directions to patiently watch the Market over a few months to develop the confident that screen time and consistency will give them. Traders are their own worst enemy and they don't understand why.
Bottomline is that those of you that are closed minded are never going to see the vast expanse of information & knowledge potentially available to you and such is life. Those of you that are open to new ideas will look at everything and absorb that which is viable & makes sense and discard that which is ridiculous, inapplicable or unnecessary to the growth of you or your livelihood based on personal experience not on, "Because I said so" mentalities. So again such is life. This is the balance that makes anything & everything work. What makes the world go round and round.
