professional career vs. trader

Quote from omega3:

from the outside, neuroradiology seems like a cutting edge field. what about your career is unappealing? i have a few older friends in radio residency and they seem to love the hours and lack of interaction with patients.

what do your dentist friends complain about? surely it isnt the salary or # of hours worked.

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i hear that post dds training is quite competitive and have been told its best to assume a career in general dentistry.

pps
it "appears" that only kings like lescor/millenium man can break 400k (this is judging by the number of posters who gawk at their numbers , no its not scientific and it'd be nice to have some real data). its much more common for a dentist to hit 400k (at least 10% of all GENERAL dentists hit 400k, as published in the above study. i'm sure MOST specialized dentists make 400k+, considering the average is 300k).

From your posts, it's pretty obvious you should go the dentist route. I won't get into all of the pros and cons because that's already been addressed, but you seem to be primarily motivated by the money. Since that seems to be your sticking point, go into dentistry. If the average dentist makes $200K+, that's more than the average trader makes, and no way do 10% of traders make over $400K. You don't seem to be detered by the negatives of becoming a dentist, so that should make your personal decision an easy one, IMO.
 
Quote from Moneyball:

From your posts, it's pretty obvious you should go the dentist route. I won't get into all of the pros and cons because that's already been addressed, but you seem to be primarily motivated by the money. Since that seems to be your sticking point, go into dentistry. If the average dentist makes $200K+, that's more than the average trader makes, and no way do 10% of traders make over $400K. You don't seem to be detered by the negatives of becoming a dentist, so that should make your personal decision an easy one, IMO.

You have motivated me to shadow a dentist for a few weeks to see what the true life is like. If its not too bad, i'll just pursue it. whatever.

Money is not everything, but it would truly suck to struggle making 100k-150 as a trader, given the stress and uncertainty of this path.
 
Quote from vanhelsing:

Finally, investing 250K or more for a health care job seems kind of risky. The fact is this country is going through a health care crisis. There is too much money being spent by the government and not enough reimbursements for providers(medicaid, medicare, and private insurances). Something is going to have to happen in the next few years.

Just want to add to this. Kind of off topic. Medicare can cut reimbursement rates at any time. If you think that it won't be so bad, talk to an independent pharmacist. Or check out what happened to the anesthesiologists when medicare cut their payments. Stuff happens. But medicine is still less risky than trading. And your odds of making bank are a lot higher in medicine than trading...but trading is a lot more fun :)
 
Quote from omega3:

I have the unlucky privilage of being surrounded by my banker friends, who at age 24 just collected 75k bonuses pretax.

Trust me I know the feeling..

$75k, I'm guessing that's roughly 1x base for a first year jr analyst? I'm not really sure how the bonus structure works at the banks as the level of tenure increases. However I will say this, my luckier older friends who started at the banks and transgressed to HFs (when they failed the "analyst squeeze") have been making 2-3x base as their bonus the past few years. The 2 & 20 rule in a bull market goes a looong way. This is in addition to promotions/raises/VP titles in their late 20s, and none have grad degrees (nor Ivy undergrad), as I said, lucky.

It's worth mentioning that they're capitalized enough, knowledgeable enough, and have a long enough list of potential OPM/clients, that they could start their own fund pretty much at a whim if/when the milk goes sour at their current cash cow.

If you're trading independently, it's very hard to compete with that payout structure unless you're highly capitalized (7 figures). You also have to take into consideration the personal risk (the aforementioned incur no risk as they're handling OPM). They're already above specialized dentists now in terms of take home pay, no telling how much higher if/when they start a fund.

You mentioned lescor & Mill.Man as the 1% that are making >$400k. I haven't followed all of their posts, but I know in lescor's case, he spent years researching & developing an automated arb system. A prop shop is not going to give you that level of training. They'll teach you how to flip 25k shares of F/GE for a penny at a time, as you churn at breakeven and bank them commissions. Ok that may be an unfair generalization of prop houses, the point being, making a consistent +$400k trading will require years of DD on your own. If you can't get into a HF or IB, I'd go specialized dentistry and swing trade on the side.
 
Usually (well, I've seen it in a couple places) a dentist is used as a foil to the volatile nature of a trader's life, so it's surprising to see someone seriously debating between the two extremes. I think you'd really need to have a natural appetite/aptitude for risk-taking and unsteady returns if you're going to be content as a trader over the long run.
 
Lescor and a couple of other making good money....all I can say is to not take ET, for all it's value, to be a gauge. Of my approx 500 traders, I doubt that 20 post here on ET, and fewer are regulars. As much as we enjoy the discussions, most traders are not the online chat types...

Quite a number of Doctors and Lawyers have made ths switch at some point as well, so maybe consider both at some point.

FWIW,

Don
 
Quote from Trader28Lite:

I think you should consider the fact that the more you know about dental hygiene the less likely you are to ever kiss a girl... let alone have oral sex


ooooh, tl, you're nasty....
 
op dude, i would become the dentist, save the bucks, trade on the side, when you're good enough go part-time at dentist trade, then full-time at trading. that way, if you suck as a trader, could always go back to dentistry....:)
 
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