Quote from Covertibility:
Oliver Wendell Holmes :
"We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes." -- Buck v Bell, in favor of forced sterilization
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The US needs to realize there are a whole heckuva lotta imbeciles out there, think red states, that are producing more and more imbeciles everyday. If not abortion, then sterilization.
Should a fetus have the right to due process. It starts to get those rights at about three months. Why not sooner.Quote from AK Forty Seven:
Nobody has a right to tell a women what she can or cant do with her body
Government funds should not pay for abortions(although the government will pay much more for a baby born with no father and mother on welfare until the kid turns 18 and even more if that kid ends up in the justice system as an adult)
Once a baby can live outside the womb abortions should be illegal/I'm against late term abortions.
Quote from Mercor:
Should a fetus have the right to due process. It starts to get those rights at about three months. Why not sooner.
The 14th amendment gave slaves who were considered property the right to due process. Isn't the fetus at this point considered property and is certainly no less free then a slave.
A baby once born is actually more dependent on the mother then in the womb. Some babies can't live outside the womb until they are 18 years old.
If you are going to argue dependency then I hope you never go into a coma.
Then there is the issue of ownership. I help you build a car in your garage and we share all the expenses, are you going to claim ownership?