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Quote from JaiSreeram:

ERdiesel, you may have a point, but can you master anything without knowing the fundamentals or its basics? We all need guidance, like schools, colleges, teachers, books etc. to learn things. Trading softwares are no exception & TradersStudio atleast gives you manuals which you can easily refer to whenever you wish to.

However, if you have problems understanding the same, please do consult the support. They are very helpful and supportive. They shall even send you sample codes to get started with.

If you do not mind, please mention your problems, so that we can help you out. Patience is the best way to learn anything. As CPTrader said so that "it may look tough in the beginning but it shall be easy in the future".
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As mentioned, i haven't had time to really dive down into the application. I've been playing with some other applications which were easier to just get up and running. Since my 4 week "trial" is up in about 2 weeks, I will certainly begin playing with Tradersstudio since I need to make a decision soon as to whether it's a keeper or not.

What EOD data source do you use by the way?
 
Quote from ERdiesel:

I agree with your previous point about charting, that's why I use different apps for charting as well as market scanning. However, it would be nice if a program such as tradersstudio had a more visually appealing charting program.

As far as EOD data is concerned, what data service do you use?

I will begin to study the manuals for tradersstudio, but i've just been busy with work and all. And yes, they do have great support. I've spoken with Steve multiple times and he's been very helpful. By the way, can you tell me what you like/disklike about the program?

Thanks!!!
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ERdiesel, I use CSI (www.csidata.com) as my EOD data provider. I also use barchart.com for intraday analaysis, quick charting, etc.

My favorite feature in TradersStudio is the ability to create a system (called "Session" in TradersStudio) and then combine all my systems ("sessions") into a suite of systems called a "Tradeplan". TradersStudio has true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting. TradersBlox (and possibly Mechanica - I say possibly because I hear (still unconfirmed, that Mechanica takes some shortcuts in the simulation that negates true/realsitic portfolio backtesting) are the only platforms that provide true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting.

If you want a fancy intra-day realtime platform to trade tick bars and 5min bars - then consider OpenQuant - even though this will require learning C## and a more complex interface/language).

If you aren't interested in true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting. then all the other platforms (Multicharts, Amibroker) can be considered.

But if you want true EOD multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting - then your options are TradersStudio, TradingBlox or Mechanica***.

Finally, they all have their weaknesses and strengths - AMIbroker in particular seems quite attractive - but it doesn't have true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting and can't be used for Active Trade Mgmt i.e. walk-forward live trading and position mgmt/reporting which is another strong feature of TradersStudio.

I know of people who combine AMIbroker and TradersStudio; some combine AMIbroker and OpenQuant.
 
Quote from ERdiesel:

As mentioned, i haven't had time to really dive down into the application. I've been playing with some other applications which were easier to just get up and running. Since my 4 week "trial" is up in about 2 weeks, I will certainly begin playing with Tradersstudio since I need to make a decision soon as to whether it's a keeper or not.

What EOD data source do you use by the way?
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If I can help , please PM me with your questions. Tell me what you want to do with the product.
 
Quote from CPTrader:

ERdiesel, I use CSI (www.csidata.com) as my EOD data provider. I also use barchart.com for intraday analaysis, quick charting, etc.

My favorite feature in TradersStudio is the ability to create a system (called "Session" in TradersStudio) and then combine all my systems ("sessions") into a suite of systems called a "Tradeplan". TradersStudio has true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting. TradersBlox (and possibly Mechanica - I say possibly because I hear (still unconfirmed, that Mechanica takes some shortcuts in the simulation that negates true/realsitic portfolio backtesting) are the only platforms that provide true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting.

If you want a fancy intra-day realtime platform to trade tick bars and 5min bars - then consider OpenQuant - even though this will require learning C## and a more complex interface/language).

If you aren't interested in true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting. then all the other platforms (Multicharts, Amibroker) can be considered.

But if you want true EOD multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting - then your options are TradersStudio, TradingBlox or Mechanica***.

Finally, they all have their weaknesses and strengths - AMIbroker in particular seems quite attractive - but it doesn't have true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting and can't be used for Active Trade Mgmt i.e. walk-forward live trading and position mgmt/reporting which is another strong feature of TradersStudio.

I know of people who combine AMIbroker and TradersStudio; some combine AMIbroker and OpenQuant.
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Thank you very much for your feedback on tradersstudio.

Yes, i've tried amibroker and it's a nice application. Not to mention very fast as far as optimizing is concerned. It seems like a lot of people are using amibroker to quickly run strategies and optimize them, then using a different product such as tradersstudio or tradingblox to conduct more extensive backtesting.

I have also tried openquant, and without knowing C# programming, it wasn't for me.
 
Quote from Murray Ruggiero:

If I can help , please PM me with your questions. Tell me what you want to do with the product.
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Thanks Murray. I probably will be pm-ing you for help once I begin to actually use your product!!!
 
I posted my first question in the tradersstudio forum and this message came up:

"You have posted to a moderated forum.
Your message will not be available until it has been approved.

A moderator will review your post shortly.

Thank you."


How can they run a user support forum like that? in fact theirs is the only forum that i've ever posted to on the internet where posts had to be pre-cleared. but even more troubling is the fact that if i do have a problem, there will be significant delays first with someone clearing the message, then someone responding to it.

seems like they want to "filter" out any really bad problems or issues about the program that people might be posting when seeking help. so much for transparency with tradersstudio
 
Quote from ERdiesel:

I posted my first question in the tradersstudio forum and this message came up:

"You have posted to a moderated forum.
Your message will not be available until it has been approved.

A moderator will review your post shortly.

Thank you."


How can they run a user support forum like that? in fact theirs is the only forum that i've ever posted to on the internet where posts had to be pre-cleared. but even more troubling is the fact that if i do have a problem, there will be significant delays first with someone clearing the message, then someone responding to it.

seems like they want to "filter" out any really bad problems or issues about the program that people might be posting when seeking help. so much for transparency with tradersstudio
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There are other forums which need to be cleared for example Trading Blox now will moderate the forum unless your accepted as pre-approved.
One of the reasons we do it is that our beta programs are large and we had problems with posts due to beta issues in the general forum because people forgot that they were using a version not all customers had. This created some big issues and is one of the reasons why we moderate the forums. Another problem is when people buy a commerical system for example Trend Harmony and ask questions about it in the forums which disclose it's logic. These are two reasons for a moderated forum.
 
Quote from JaiSreeram:

I have been using TradersStudio for sometime now, it looks good. However, I was thinking that if users can come together & discuss the various methods, or ways to exploit the features of the software. Moreover, they can discuss & and clarify any doubts or queries they have regarding its usage.
Therefore, is it possible to have some sort of discussion thread relating to TradersStudio so that we can all discuss and learn from experienced users?
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You have given a very good idea, JaiSreeram. I shall think over this and let you know in a day or so.
 
Quote from CPTrader:

ERdiesel, I use CSI (www.csidata.com) as my EOD data provider. I also use barchart.com for intraday analaysis, quick charting, etc.

My favorite feature in TradersStudio is the ability to create a system (called "Session" in TradersStudio) and then combine all my systems ("sessions") into a suite of systems called a "Tradeplan". TradersStudio has true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting. TradersBlox (and possibly Mechanica - I say possibly because I hear (still unconfirmed, that Mechanica takes some shortcuts in the simulation that negates true/realsitic portfolio backtesting) are the only platforms that provide true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting.

If you want a fancy intra-day realtime platform to trade tick bars and 5min bars - then consider OpenQuant - even though this will require learning C## and a more complex interface/language).

If you aren't interested in true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting. then all the other platforms (Multicharts, Amibroker) can be considered.

But if you want true EOD multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting - then your options are TradersStudio, TradingBlox or Mechanica***.

Finally, they all have their weaknesses and strengths - AMIbroker in particular seems quite attractive - but it doesn't have true multi-market-multi-system portfolio backtesting and can't be used for Active Trade Mgmt i.e. walk-forward live trading and position mgmt/reporting which is another strong feature of TradersStudio.

I know of people who combine AMIbroker and TradersStudio; some combine AMIbroker and OpenQuant.
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cptrader, i noticed your post over at the trading blox forums. seems like you are considering moving over to trading blox. Any reason why? i'm asking because it seemed like you enjoyed tradersstudio, so i'm wondering why you would be considering moving off that platform
 
Quote from ERdiesel:

Anyone can create a "Tradersstudio Users Discusion Thread", including yourself. I purchased the program over a week and a half ago to evaluate it but i haven't had time to yet. If I was convinced to keep it, i would create such a thread but since there is a chance I may not keep it, i think it's best if i dont start the thread.

So are there any pros/cons that you can share from your experiences with the software?

For me, my initial impressions weren't that great (based on look and feel). The charting is pretty bad, the UI is confusing and "bare bones" however the core features such as backtesting and optimization might be great. I just don't know since I haven't gotten around to "testing" the features. Not exactly an application that you can simply start up for the first time and get started. One of the few applications that I have played with recently where you actually need to read through the written manuals in order to figure out what to do to get started.
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ERdiesel, we all are ready to help you all. Please specify the problems you have, we shall surely help you out. We agree that you might be facing problems, and we are ready to help make TradersStudio an enjoyable experience. :)

TradersStudio might look confusing int he beginning, but with a little help it shall be a breeze. Please do not hesitate to ask questions just as you would do so if you were studying.

Moreover, in terms of the charting, it is being improved upon in a big way in the next version. The new version shall have more Addins, toolbars etc. In brief, it shall a big improvement in many ways.

It is my humble request to please "Private Message" Mr. Murray, any ideas for changes or improvements; you would like to be included while the new product is in the beta. As, from my personal experience, earlier I had sent my requests and requirements which I so desired and he had included them as new features in the beta version.
 
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