Quote from 1contract:
dbphoenix,
Thanks again for all the effort you've put into this thread. Can you help me with a few questions.
1. I can't match my volume data (QCharts) with the figures on your chart. For example, the big volume bar (4 before close) on Friday's chart is around 5k (NQ04M on QCharts) - but your chart has it around 800k. The pattern of volume is the same on my chart - but not the abs. values. I'm sure I'm missing something.
2. Do you only watch volume on the instrument you trade, or do you take related ones into account. For example, do you pay attention to volume on ES when you're trading NQ?
3. In order to make judgements about hi/lo volume levels, it is necessary to arrive at some calibration. For example, for me, less than 3k/5min ES is tiny - while more than 12k is good for trends & BOs. Do you have specific figures that you use, and how did you arrive at them?
4. On your blended hammer around 10:00 a.m., volume on the down leg was much less than on the up leg. Would you attach any significance to this?
Thanks,
1c
1. The pattern is what matters, not the values, though if the bar interval is too small, the volume may be essentially patternless, though this isn't a point I'm prepared to argue.
2. I always watch the ES alongside the NQ since they're symbiotic. It's a form of insurance that I'm not seeing only what I want to see. If I see disconnects, I back off.
3. One would think that volume levels were important. I've always thought so. But when it comes down to demonstrating this value, that's not quite so easy.
There are considerations other than volume level, e.g., where are you? If, for example, you "hit" important R pre-market, when volume is crap, the short is still likely to be good simply because of where you are. And there is also the issue of what you want to do. Volume considerations are different according to whether you want to enter, manage, or exit. If, for example, you're already in the trade and just managing it, all you want from volume is that it not get in your way.
Unusual price movement does not require big volume. However, it attracts attention by virtue of being unusual, which might then attract the volume (yes, that means that price often precedes volume). Therefore, depending on your risk profile, it can pay to focus on what price is doing, then anticipate volume, planning ahead as to what you'll do if the volume doesn't appear.
4. Not really. Low volume would mean low demand. High volume without price advance would mean strong demand that's being swamped by supply. Either way, the result is a falling price. This is one reason why I like to blend candle pairs in my head at price extremes.