Price action leading up to the dump at 10AM

Quote from Mvic:

Most successful day traders don't trade the news instead trade the reaction to it.


yes fade the news.

Today I traded the OPG and AAPL before 9:50. then the waited it out. Eventually traded.

Total was a knockout fight for trading for me. Back and forth all day long.

tomorrow looking XOP (ETF) MGM and FCX on the long side
 
Quote from cactus_trader:

yes fade the news.

Today I traded the OPG and AAPL before 9:50. then the waited it out. Eventually traded.

Total was a knockout fight for trading for me. Back and forth all day long.

I traded AAPL short, then long between 9:34 and 9:51, had NO interest in a position on the news. Came back at 10:08 to reverse sides again. Saved myself the fight by cutting myself off after 11:00!
 
Quote from NoDoji:

I traded AAPL short, then long between 9:34 and 9:51, had NO interest in a position on the news. Came back at 10:08 to reverse sides again. Saved myself the fight by cutting myself off after 11:00!

I will check my executions tomorrow once I get to the office in the AM. but long on the nice first extension.


I watched AAPL all day long if the market was going to bounce, but the late day move up was soon flushed out at the close.

Buyers did not show today and buy the dips and TRIN was bearish all day long and things were just in "overbought mode" all day long


correct me if Im wrong, but I think I saw your name in "Stocks and Commodities Magazine" -Q&A- not to long ago?
 
Quote from cactus_trader:

correct me if Im wrong, but I think I saw your name in "Stocks and Commodities Magazine" -Q&A- not to long ago?

If it was a good question, yes. If it was a dumb question, wasn't me.
 
Quote from failed_trad3r:

Can somebody please explain how I should have interpeted todays price action prior to the big dump?

I've been training my eye to see price action, and little indicators. All the price action up to 10 AM was bullish! I was visualizing a bottoming formation, especially after the first 15 min bar. I did see some selling pressure in the second 15 min bar, but how could that have predicted the big dump?:confused:

Well, if you look at index futs, you'll see a perfect doji top on the ES around 3 am on the hourly. Then right before the news there's an attempt to rise from the base (retest) that produced a gigantic wick on the upside, meaning it was sold off hard. This means the market already made up its mind what its gonna do with the news. Plus consumer confidence is BS news. I mean; uncle Guber and aunt Ginnie, what do you think about the state of the economy and finances? Really? Economic news? LOL

The good news is, you could seek a lot of confirmation signals for the above pa (ym, fdax, oil, gold, eur), and if the constellation is such, you have a pretty strong pa to support a short decision. The bad news is, it works, oh, about 50% of the time these days... :p
 
Quote from failed_trad3r:

Can somebody please explain how I should have interpeted todays price action prior to the big dump?

I've been training my eye to see price action, and little indicators. All the price action up to 10 AM was bullish! I was visualizing a bottoming formation, especially after the first 15 min bar. I did see some selling pressure in the second 15 min bar, but how could that have predicted the big dump?:confused:

Same thing about to happen right now as Bernanke speaks and the New Homes Sales data should be screaming ***bloody murder!***

10am -- time stamp of many suicidal longs
 
Quote from adadadog:

One of the traders, who trades eur, posted on t2w and says he can trade news before its release 90% of winning by following trends and subtle moves just before the news release. The subtle moves are often in the direction of the big after news move.

Another theory from "Study of Tape Reading" is that the news or hint of it often leak out minutes before its formal release, so tape should reflect it.

I do notice, the subtle before news movement is often consistent with the big after news move. But I am too risk averse to trade it.

That is a good point as positive volume did actually back off 3 minues before the news release

NiN
 
Quote from Gcapman:

Same thing about to happen right now as Bernanke speaks and the New Homes Sales data should be screaming ***bloody murder!***

10am -- time stamp of many suicidal longs

Well, I certainly hope you're not short now, either. ;)
 
The daily chart was pointing to the fact that it was going to be a down day b/c of the no demand up thrust daily bar on no volume. Thus, it was reasonable to say that 2/23/10 was going to be a down day as the lack of demand turns into selling.

Now, predicting a 10 point, 15 min bar dump ? Not gonna happen. I had a reasonable idea of what was going to happen and I still didnt make that move. Oh well
 
Quote from wiesman02:

The daily chart was pointing to the fact that it was going to be a down day b/c of the no demand up thrust daily bar on no volume. Thus, it was reasonable to say that 2/23/10 was going to be a down day as the lack of demand turns into selling.

Exactly. I was guessing a down day and I didn't even know about the news at 10. I think no matter what the news was it was going to go down.
 
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