Had not heard that one.
I look forward to hearing more about it from Trump.
Apparently T-Bone did not realize that he was threatening Sparticus.
Yeh, that could happen to any of us.
President Trump is Psychotic -- Psychiatrist L. Dodes Says
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Had not heard that one.
I look forward to hearing more about it from Trump.
Apparently T-Bone did not realize that he was threatening Sparticus.
Yeh, that could happen to any of us.
Source for these claims?
And the source for your claims? Even the original article has links indicating Goldwater rule is a medical requirement for practices.
This is fascinating: www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/07/29/psychiatrist_trump_mental_health_urgently_deteriorating.html
Every bit as interesting, if not even more so, are the series of vituperative ad hominem attacks on the interviewee that follows his remarks. While they have him crapping on a stool and smearing feces under his eyes, they don't mention anything of substance that would rebut the appraisal offered of Trumps psychological state. Trump's behavior is in plain view every day, just pretending he's of perfectly sound mind is going to be a rather hard sell.
Every bit as interesting, if not even more so, are the series of vituperative ad hominem attacks on the interviewee that follows his remarks. While they have him crapping on a stool and smearing feces under his eyes, they don't mention anything of substance that would rebut the appraisal offered of Trumps psychological state. Trump's behavior is in plain view every day, just pretending he's of perfectly sound mind is going to be a rather hard sell.
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It is fascinating the John Gartner is not facing action from medical organizations for his inappropriate acts which violate all medical standards for shrinks.
Dr. John Gartner, Founder of "Duty To Warn" and co-editor of "Rocket Man: Nuclear Madness and the Mind of Donald Trump," joins the 'David Pakman Show' to discuss the mental health conditions he believes Donald Trump has, which would justify his removal from the Presidency under the 25th Amendment to the Constitution.
I believe he is a Psychologist rather than a psychiatrist. The psychologists' association, it is my understanding , does not take the Goldwater rule as imperative.
Gartner's training and area of expertise would seem to make him about as close to an expert in personality disorders, such as Trump's, as we are likely to find. see, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gartner_(psychologist)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19774754
In the United States presidential election of 1964, Barry Goldwater competed with Lyndon Johnson, and Fact Magazine presented 1,189 psychiatrists’ suggestions for Goldwater’s psychological unfitness to be president. Barry Goldwater sued Ralph Ginzburg, the editor of Fact Magazine, for defamation and won $75,000 (about $592,000 today) in damages [1-6]. Thereafter, according to the medical ethical principles of the American Psychiatric Association (APA), it is considered unethical for psychiatrists to give their professional opinion about public figures who have not been evaluated personally and who do not agree with public opinion about their mental health [7]. Further, consistent with the ethical principles of the APA, the American Psychological Association’s ethical principles recommend taking strict precautions about psychologists’ media presentations [8]. Somewhat inconsistent with the ethical principles of the APA, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsaA) partly permits psychoanalysts to offer psychoanalytic insights to help the public comprehend a wide range of political, artistic, cultural, historical, economic, and other phenomena. Despite this permission, psychoanalysts have been requested to maintain “extreme caution” when making statements to the mass media about public figures, and the limitations of psychoanalytic inferences about individuals who have not been interviewed in depth has been noted [9]. As shown in Table 1, according to the ethical principles of these mental health professional societies, professional comments about public figures via mass media are commonly regarded as acts that are inconsistent with journalism ethics or should be carried out with “extreme precaution.”
And it should noted that all the Doctors involved got their medical licenses stripped.
Now that we have heard from Psychologist John Gartner, Ph.D., lets hear from Psychiatrist Justin Frank, M.D.
Please see: https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/25/donald-trump-applied-psychoanalysis-diagnosis/
for the original article including deleted images.
Please see: https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/25/donald-trump-applied-psychoanalysis-diagnosis/
for the original article including deleted images.
I used applied psychoanalysis to assess President Trump. The diagnosis is frightening
By Justin A. Frank
September 25, 2018
Much has been written by U.S. commentators, pundits, and even mental health professionals about Donald Trump’s mind and psyche during the 2016 campaign for the presidency and his first 20 months in office. Little of it was grounded in applied psychoanalysis, the practice of using psychoanalytical principles to understand the actions, motivations, and limitations of historical figures.
To fill that gap, I wrote “Trump on the Couch,” a task made easier by the revealing historical record on his family and early years and his own published record, from the books he has authored over the years to his more recent, incomparable Twitter output. These sources provide an unprecedented look at how the unconscious patterns Trump developed in childhood influence his words and deeds in adulthood.
A single appearance on “Fox & Friends,” a morning talk show on the Trump-friendly Fox News network, reveals the depth and breadth of the character evaluations and mental illness diagnoses that I made from my analyses.
It was April 26, 2018, the day that White House physician Dr. Ronny Jackson withdrew as Trump’s surprise nominee for Secretary of Veterans Affairs following allegations of improper professional conduct. From the privacy of his White House retreat, Trump called into the show, and for nearly 30 minutes delivered a rambling monologue, weighing in on topics from Jackson’s announcement to Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels, James Comey, and Kanye West.
This half-hour revealed how destabilized the president can become and showed many of the disturbing patterns seen elsewhere in Trump’s actions and writing. Three of the most striking were his deep-seated feelings of victimhood, repeating himself, and difficulty answering questions or staying on point. He remarked, for example, that he had made NBC “a fortune.” He then went on to say, “You would think these guys would treat me great” before repeating “I made them a fortune.” And then he said, “They treat me falsely.” His disbelief was palpable.
In most situations, Trump’s impulse is to blame others for the problems he encounters. On “Fox & Friends,” he blamed the Democrats. His tendency to view the “other” as bad, dirty, or destructive was illustrated here by his rants against James Comey, CNN, and Robert Mueller.
A worrisome escalation of Trump’s cognitive limitations was heard in his inability to follow the thread of a conversation, as when he jumped from getting a card for Melania’s birthday to talking about Macron’s wife to talking about Iran — all in a span of three sentences. He said things that just don’t make sense, like there is “a horrible group of deep-seated people” out to get him.
The paranoid portrayal of himself as victim continued in a similar manner. “It’s a witch hunt,” Trump said, “and they know that. … I would give myself an A-plus. Nobody has done what I’ve been able to do and I did it despite the fact that I have a phony cloud over my head that doesn’t exist.”
Also on display was the now-familiar disconnect between Trump’s language, meaning, and the truth, most conspicuously when he contradicted himself while railing against his perceived enemies on “fake news” networks: “I don’t watch them at all. I watched last night.”
What troubled me even more was the acceleration of Trump’s anger, which threatened at times to escape his control and explode into full-throated rage. The same destructive impulses to which he gives free expression from the rally podium sounded out of control when coming from an isolated, disembodied voice over the phone.
The show’s three hosts, Ainsley Earhardt, Brian Kilmeade, and Steve Doocy, kept trying to change the topic in an apparent attempt to distract the president from erupting into full-blown chaos. Without their knowing it, they were unconsciously attempting to serve as the human equivalent of The Wall, the psychic skin that Trump’s disordered personality relies upon to keep him from falling apart entirely. But the “Fox & Friends” hosts’ calm had the opposite effect. After their attempts to contain him continued to fail, they ended the conversation just as he was revving up for another round of invective against Comey, the FBI, and the Clinton Foundation.
Moments before ending the “conversation,” Kilmeade interrupted Trump’s tirade against the “council of seven people” on CNN of which “every one is against me.” Kilmeade suggested, “I’m not your doctor, Mr. President, but I would, I would recommend you watch less of them.”
It’s clear from the transcript of the episode that Trump was incapable that morning of simultaneously appearing on the show and listening closely to what was being said. If Kilmeade had said something comparable to another guest while Trump was watching, it’s easy to imagine what Trump’s take on it would have been: He would have seen the fact that the host was so exasperated by the guest’s volatile mental state that he introduced the notion of how a doctor might address it as a confirmation of the guest’s instability. The tweet would have been “Loser.” Instead, the president didn’t acknowledge the suggestion that he could use a doctor to help him maintain his mental stability.
Questions about Trump’s mental health and the possible need for treatment have been topics
By Justin A. Frank
September 25, 2018
Much has been written by U.S. commentators, pundits, and even mental health professionals about Donald Trump’s mind and psyche during the 2016 campaign for the presidency and his first 20 months in office. Little of it was grounded in applied psychoanalysis, the practice of using psychoanalytical principles to understand the actions, motivations, and limitations of historical figures.
To fill that gap, I wrote “Trump on the Couch,” a task made easier by the revealing historical record on his family and early years and his own published record, from the books he has authored over the years to his more recent, incomparable Twitter output. These sources provide an unprecedented look at how the unconscious patterns Trump developed in childhood influence his words and deeds in adulthood.
A single appearance on “Fox & Friends,” a morning talk show on the Trump-friendly Fox News network, reveals the depth and breadth of the character evaluations and mental illness diagnoses that I made from my analyses.
It was April 26, 2018, the day that White House physician Dr. Ronny Jackson withdrew as Trump’s surprise nominee for Secretary of Veterans Affairs following allegations of improper professional conduct. From the privacy of his White House retreat, Trump called into the show, and for nearly 30 minutes delivered a rambling monologue, weighing in on topics from Jackson’s announcement to Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels, James Comey, and Kanye West.
This half-hour revealed how destabilized the president can become and showed many of the disturbing patterns seen elsewhere in Trump’s actions and writing. Three of the most striking were his deep-seated feelings of victimhood, repeating himself, and difficulty answering questions or staying on point. He remarked, for example, that he had made NBC “a fortune.” He then went on to say, “You would think these guys would treat me great” before repeating “I made them a fortune.” And then he said, “They treat me falsely.” His disbelief was palpable.
In most situations, Trump’s impulse is to blame others for the problems he encounters. On “Fox & Friends,” he blamed the Democrats. His tendency to view the “other” as bad, dirty, or destructive was illustrated here by his rants against James Comey, CNN, and Robert Mueller.
A worrisome escalation of Trump’s cognitive limitations was heard in his inability to follow the thread of a conversation, as when he jumped from getting a card for Melania’s birthday to talking about Macron’s wife to talking about Iran — all in a span of three sentences. He said things that just don’t make sense, like there is “a horrible group of deep-seated people” out to get him.
The paranoid portrayal of himself as victim continued in a similar manner. “It’s a witch hunt,” Trump said, “and they know that. … I would give myself an A-plus. Nobody has done what I’ve been able to do and I did it despite the fact that I have a phony cloud over my head that doesn’t exist.”
Also on display was the now-familiar disconnect between Trump’s language, meaning, and the truth, most conspicuously when he contradicted himself while railing against his perceived enemies on “fake news” networks: “I don’t watch them at all. I watched last night.”
What troubled me even more was the acceleration of Trump’s anger, which threatened at times to escape his control and explode into full-throated rage. The same destructive impulses to which he gives free expression from the rally podium sounded out of control when coming from an isolated, disembodied voice over the phone.
The show’s three hosts, Ainsley Earhardt, Brian Kilmeade, and Steve Doocy, kept trying to change the topic in an apparent attempt to distract the president from erupting into full-blown chaos. Without their knowing it, they were unconsciously attempting to serve as the human equivalent of The Wall, the psychic skin that Trump’s disordered personality relies upon to keep him from falling apart entirely. But the “Fox & Friends” hosts’ calm had the opposite effect. After their attempts to contain him continued to fail, they ended the conversation just as he was revving up for another round of invective against Comey, the FBI, and the Clinton Foundation.
Moments before ending the “conversation,” Kilmeade interrupted Trump’s tirade against the “council of seven people” on CNN of which “every one is against me.” Kilmeade suggested, “I’m not your doctor, Mr. President, but I would, I would recommend you watch less of them.”
It’s clear from the transcript of the episode that Trump was incapable that morning of simultaneously appearing on the show and listening closely to what was being said. If Kilmeade had said something comparable to another guest while Trump was watching, it’s easy to imagine what Trump’s take on it would have been: He would have seen the fact that the host was so exasperated by the guest’s volatile mental state that he introduced the notion of how a doctor might address it as a confirmation of the guest’s instability. The tweet would have been “Loser.” Instead, the president didn’t acknowledge the suggestion that he could use a doctor to help him maintain his mental stability.
Questions about Trump’s mental health and the possible need for treatment have been topics