Prepare to Dive: The country is entering vaccine termination hell next week

Was talking to a truck fleet owner today about the build up of containers off Los Angeles, CA. Sounds like it might be a work slowdown. Wonder if it is related to mandates? By the way, one can’t snap their fingers and create an experienced, skilled, and safe crane operator.

If the Republicans play their cards right, perhaps by nominating a charismatic, Trump-like Presidential candidate, they may make large gains with the union vote. If my CNN watching, long term registered Democrat, Puerto Rican roommate is an indication, the Democrats have a challenging election cycle ahead.
 
Sounds like she has done a lot of thinking. Don't be surprised if ESPN does some more thinking too and finds a way to accommodate. If so, then fine. The woman is conducting herself in an exceedingly polite manner which often leads to good karma and outcomes. Knowledge that has been lost in society.

"Can't we all just get along." -Rodney King.

ESPN reporter Allison Williams leaving network over Covid vaccine mandate
"I have been denied my request for accommodation" to not get the vaccination, Williams said in a video posted Friday to Instagram. "Effective next week, I will be separated from the company."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...g-network-over-covid-vaccine-mandate-n1281737
 
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BeautifulStranger said:
Was talking to a truck fleet owner today about the build up of containers off Los Angeles, CA. Sounds like it might be a work slowdown. Wonder if it is related to mandates? By the way, one can’t snap their fingers and create an experienced, skilled, and safe crane operator.

If the Republicans play their cards right, perhaps by nominating a charismatic, Trump-like Presidential candidate, they may make large gains with the union vote. If my CNN watching, long term registered Democrat, Puerto Rican roommate is an indication, the Democrats have a challenging election cycle ahead.
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Got it ... there's no trucking shortage. :rolleyes:

 
There is no worker slowdown... jeez..... container arrivals are above record levels with 70 ships waiting offshore. A ship arrives and in 2 - 3 days drops off 4000 containers. A truck can only take one container at a time... how many trucks do you think there are...
 
El OchoCinco said:
There is no worker slowdown... jeez..... container arrivals are above record levels with 70 ships waiting offshore. A ship arrives and in 2 - 3 days drops off 4000 containers. A truck can only take one container at a time... how many trucks do you think there are...
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Is the port connected by rail or do the Teamsters not allow that?

I think they are linked bigly but I do not hear that discussed in the equation.
 
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TreeFrogTrader said:
Is the port connected by rail or do the Teamsters not allow that?

I think they are linked bigly but I do not hear that discussed in the equation.
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There is a rail spur and t hose can take a lot of containers in one long train but it is like a subway in the city, if you dont live off of the metro line it is not convenient to take. Trucking is slightly more expensive than rail but trucking you can go ahy where to a specific address and just drive up to a warehouse and unload while rail you need to have tracks to connect to your geographic area and then a rail spur to go to your plant or a warehouse nearby and then often they shift the container to a truck locally to finish the delivery. (liquid and bulk rail cars and pull up to a plant's piping and transfer into a tank, but containers go from the ship to the rail car a la multimodal)

Of course like trucks, the rail chassis goes out and takes weeks before it comes back empty to pick up more. I am sure unions are all over the truck and rail but there is a shortage of drivers naturally and just not enough equipment so it moves pretty well from what I have seen but it is slower that is all. Once you get it into the port that is like 80% of the battle. A few days to a week comparaitively waiting for truck pick up or rail is not so bad in the big scheme of things.
 
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Of course like trucks, the rail chassis goes out and takes weeks before it comes back empty to pick up more.
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That might be if left to itself without more creativity and sense of urgency applied to it.

We can't bring more empty rail chassis in, because why, other rail lines would not cooperate and coordinate?

I guess if we had some leadership that had some experience and a record of making things happen on national scales I could be more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. The ports, the truckers, the rail managers all have massive expertise but also tend to be stovepiped into their fifedoms unless coordinated at a higher level. If we send rail out, there is no alternative to just waiting for a set number of rail chassis to come back "weeks" later. Nope. That is a pressure point that needs a little more pressure. Ditto for the trucking.

Not sure how a thread on vaccinations and job terminations ended out migrating over to the Port of Los Angeles. It happens I guess.
 
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That might be if left to itself without more creativity and sense of urgency applied to it.

We can't bring more empty rail chassis in, because why, other rail lines would not cooperate and coordinate?

I guess if we had some leadership that had some experience and a record of making things happen on national scales I could be more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. The ports, the truckers, the rail managers all have massive expertise but also tend to be stovepiped into their fifedoms unless coordinated at a higher level. If we send rail out, there is no alternative to just waiting for a set number of rail chassis to come back "weeks" later. Nope. That is a pressure point that needs a little more pressure. Ditto for the trucking.

Not sure how a thread on vaccinations and job terminations ended out migrating over to the Port of Los Angeles. It happens I guess.
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Well the rails and trucks are all their own private companies and in our free market society the government cannot come in and command all trucks go to LA/LB. The fact that Xmas shoppers are going to find less product on the shelves for their capitalistic shopping orgy really does not rise to national emergency levels requiring government intervention. When people stop being consumer pigs the demand will drop off and the backlog at ports will open up.

Dont think it is a big deal if people have to spend more time with fmaily than money on family this holiday season....
 
El OchoCinco said:
Well the rails and trucks are all their own private companies and in our free market society the government cannot come in and command all trucks go to LA/LB. .
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Of course.

That's why leadership requires the ability to identify appropriate incentives and to be able to influence people and organizations that you do not necessarily have direct command and control over.

It is not a binary arrangement where you either have control or you do nothing.

CMON MAN. You know that.
 
Whoaa, try to wrap your head around this shiite.

Chicago police brass request vaccine updates from personnel, may deny benefits to officers choosing to retire

The Chicago Police Department’s top cop has threatened to deny retirement benefits to those who choose to retire from the job rather than comply with the city's COVID-19 vaccination policy, according to local reports.

Chicago Police Superintendent David O. Brown said that those officers who do choose to retire rather than follow City Hall’s orders "may be denied retirement credentials," the Chicago Tribune reported, citing Brown’s Sunday memo.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-vaccine-mandate-police-superintendent-retirement-benefits

 
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