Prepare For The New Islamist States In The Middle East
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Does that include the "fundamental transformation of the United States" into an Islamic state?
The main force behind the Arab uprisings are not islamic radicals. Look at the protests in Egypt. The protests were largely secular. The Muslim Brotherhood engaged in the protests as well but the secular protestors would not even allow the brotherhood to wave islamic flags and signs in Tahrir square.
Also, why do you think the arab governments are shutting down the internet? Do you think it is because the protestors are reading too much Islamic material on the internet
? These young protestors are studying the ways of freedom. The internet has given them new information and they have realized that they can actually change society and improve the quality of their lives.
Over 90% of the population in Egypt, Libya and Saudi Arabia are Muslim yet the protestors are strongly against traditional Islamic practices. They argue for religious freedom, womens rights, freedom for the press and a functioning democracy. Those principles hardly signal a turn towards theocratic fundamentalism.
Also, why do you think the arab governments are shutting down the internet? Do you think it is because the protestors are reading too much Islamic material on the internet
? These young protestors are studying the ways of freedom. The internet has given them new information and they have realized that they can actually change society and improve the quality of their lives. Over 90% of the population in Egypt, Libya and Saudi Arabia are Muslim yet the protestors are strongly against traditional Islamic practices. They argue for religious freedom, womens rights, freedom for the press and a functioning democracy. Those principles hardly signal a turn towards theocratic fundamentalism.
The point of the original article is that Obama is not preparing enough or trying to influence the form of government that will eventually emerge from the regime change that is occurring in middle eastern countries.
If you recall I posted in another thread that a Zogby poll found that 95% of Egyptians think that Islam should play a large roll in politics, i.e. government. That being the case, the risk of an Islamist defined government forming in Egypt and other middle eastern countries in turmoil is high. A government with an Islamic basis is most likely a government promoting some of the less desirable elements of Islam such as stonings (54% approve), death to apostates (84% approve), cutting off hands for theft (77% approve) and other Islamic tenets. Among those tenets are the subjugation of the world to Islam, suicide bombings, sharia law, etc., etc.
Governments that allow such beliefs to be part of their laws and structure can and probably will play an important part in the peace, or lack there of, in the region and the world.
BTW, the video below is a good reminder that President Bush was supported by the majority of the Democrats including the Democratic leaders in his decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.
If you recall I posted in another thread that a Zogby poll found that 95% of Egyptians think that Islam should play a large roll in politics, i.e. government. That being the case, the risk of an Islamist defined government forming in Egypt and other middle eastern countries in turmoil is high. A government with an Islamic basis is most likely a government promoting some of the less desirable elements of Islam such as stonings (54% approve), death to apostates (84% approve), cutting off hands for theft (77% approve) and other Islamic tenets. Among those tenets are the subjugation of the world to Islam, suicide bombings, sharia law, etc., etc.
Governments that allow such beliefs to be part of their laws and structure can and probably will play an important part in the peace, or lack there of, in the region and the world.
BTW, the video below is a good reminder that President Bush was supported by the majority of the Democrats including the Democratic leaders in his decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.
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The main force behind the Arab uprisings are not islamic radicals. Look at the protests in Egypt. The protests were largely secular. The Muslim Brotherhood engaged in the protests as well but the secular protestors would not even allow the brotherhood to wave islamic flags and signs in Tahrir square.
Also, why do you think the arab governments are shutting down the internet? Do you think it is because the protestors are reading too much Islamic material on the internet
Over 90% of the population in Egypt, Libya and Saudi Arabia are Muslim yet the protestors are strongly against traditional Islamic practices. They argue for religious freedom, womens rights, freedom for the press and a functioning democracy. Those principles hardly signal a turn towards theocratic fundamentalism.
This is clearly the optimistic case, one that has been pushed by the media and seemingly forms the basis of the administration's policy, to the extent there is a cohehrent policy.
For a contrary view by a very astute observer, consider this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/04/AR2011030402322.html
He makes the points that just because radical islamists have not been front and center doesn't mean they are not involved and that they will likely be the best organized and most motivated participants in post-tyrant regimes.
Islam isn't going to just march across the world without setbacks and resistance and stalling out. Christianity, if it is really the true religion from God, cannot perish. God will see to that.
If it is no better or more the truth than any other religion then it doesn't matter what happens. If Jesus didn't really rise from the dead then our lives are truly "just dust in the wind".