Prayerful lives, violent deaths

Why don't we hear from the anti-gun lobby when on a near daily basis there are drive-by shootings in Chicago. I bet there's more gun related homicides in Chicago than all the mass shootings the media focuses on combined. A few weeks ago several motorcycle gangs opened fire on each other killing and wounding dozens... Not a peep.

Only when it's presumed racial or against children is it politically expedient for politicians to trip over themselves in a race to raise their moral banner.

Hypocrites
The anti-gun lobby decries all the gun homicides. But the big shootings of innocents (not warring gangs) get the big headlines, as they should.
 

And we're probably going to have a ''Don't Know President''

Jeb Bush: 'I Don't Know What Was On The Mind' Of Charleston Shooter

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Friday that he has no idea what motivated a young white man to walk into a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, Wednesday night and kill nine people.

"I don't know what was on the mind or the heart of the man who committed these atrocious crimes," the former Florida governor said at the Faith & Freedom Coalition conference.

The shooter, 21-year-old Dylann Roof, was crystal clear about his motive: He reportedly announced he was there to kill black people, saying at the church, "You rape our women, and you're taking over the country. And you have to go."


In a Facebook picture, Roof sported patches on his jacket representing Rhodesia, a former apartheid state in East Africa, and apartheid-era South Africa. He also reportedly told his roommate he was planning to ignite a civil war.
 
And we're probably going to have a ''Don't Know President''

Jeb Bush: 'I Don't Know What Was On The Mind' Of Charleston Shooter

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Friday that he has no idea what motivated a young white man to walk into a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, Wednesday night and kill nine people.

"I don't know what was on the mind or the heart of the man who committed these atrocious crimes," the former Florida governor said at the Faith & Freedom Coalition conference.

The shooter, 21-year-old Dylann Roof, was crystal clear about his motive: He reportedly announced he was there to kill black people, saying at the church, "You rape our women, and you're taking over the country. And you have to go."


In a Facebook picture, Roof sported patches on his jacket representing Rhodesia, a former apartheid state in East Africa, and apartheid-era South Africa. He also reportedly told his roommate he was planning to ignite a civil war.

Lmao. Jeb!'s a doof. The killer's confession will sure as hell be taken as fact, but the killer's explanation is a mystery.
 
I didn't choose that title, cnn did. I was too lazy to come up with one so I just used what was there. FWIW, it did seem like a strange title, but I was too tired to think about anything else.

The reason I posted the thread is to continue to illuminate gun violence in America. Do you think the person that did it is right in the head? And yet, anyone can go to a gun show and buy an assault rifle and put it to use ten minutes later.

Go here to learn the true cost of gun violence in America:

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/what-does-gun-violence-really-cost.292380/
Okay, but I thought you were already covering that with your what's the real cost of gun violence thread. Whatever.
To answer your question, no I don't think the killer who did this was right in the head. I also agree that gun show sales need more oversight and restrictions. However, crazy people and criminals will find a way.
I just didn't and don't think that prayer was relevant to the death of these people, or their early demise.
 
It's interesting to note that the NRA board member thinks all nine victims would be alive if even one had been armed. He's wrong, the good people are not going to start shooting first.
 
It's interesting to note that the NRA board member thinks all nine victims would be alive if even one had been armed. He's wrong, the good people are not going to start shooting first.

The good people won't even have time to draw their weapons.

People who advocate this sort of thing have no idea what armed combat is all about. Even the second+ it takes to appraise a situation before drawing your weapon is way too much. Would any of these people have had the presence of mind to do so?

Please.

It would help if any of these people, Democrat or Republican, had ever served.
 
Okay, but I thought you were already covering that with your what's the real cost of gun violence thread. Whatever.
To answer your question, no I don't think the killer who did this was right in the head. I also agree that gun show sales need more oversight and restrictions. However, crazy people and criminals will find a way.
I just didn't and don't think that prayer was relevant to the death of these people, or their early demise.
I am not sure you are interpreting the title as it was meant when it was written. At least I don't take it the way you do. I take the title as, "here we go to the one place there is supposed to be sanctuary and peace where we can meditate and be at peace with our God, in commune with like-minded others, and even there we can't get away from violence and ugliness of the world"

"Prayerful lives, violent deaths"
 
It's interesting to note that the NRA board member thinks all nine victims would be alive if even one had been armed. He's wrong, the good people are not going to start shooting first.
Perhaps we should quit making excuses for violent people. Some things that come out of the mouths from NRA people are insane. Hands up don't shoot is insane. Pretending thugs are victims is insane. Thinking that if everyone had a gun we'd all be safe is insane.
Maybe if we as a nation weren't so pre-occupied with the trivial nonsense that the media spews upon us, we could tackle this problem head on. We are a violent people. The divisions among us get wider and the hand wringing gets greater, even though our leaders promise us something different. We drug ourselves just to get through the day and the solution we're given to do more drugs.
Good and decent people were killed and we are paralyzed to find a solution. I keep saying it. We're on a bad path.
 
I am not sure you are interpreting the title as it was meant when it was written. At least I don't take it the way you do. I take the title as, "here we go to the one place there is supposed to be sanctuary and peace, and even there we can't get away from violence"

"Prayerful lives, violent deaths"
You're right, I didn't interpret it that way, but I can see your point a little better now. Thanks for the clarification.
 
The good people won't even have time to draw their weapons.

People who advocate this sort of thing have no idea what armed combat is all about. Even the second+ it takes to appraise a situation before drawing your weapon is way too much. Would any of these people have had the presence of mind to do so?

Please.

It would help if any of these people, Democrat or Republican, had ever served.


Nonsense. This was a lone gunmen with a handgun, not a bomb going off. It's ridiculous to suggest that an armed person or two in the group would not have evened the odds a bit.

Unfortunately, churches have to be considered targets now. We have muslims killing and persecuting Christians, we have crazed gay rights advocates like the guy who shot up the Family Research Council and was stopped by a black guard, we had that crazed black guy who shot up the Washington Navy Yard office, there have been numerous shootings at churches.
 
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