PPT Exists ! ! !

You are greatly under-estimating the powers of the FED. The Greenspan Put is just one way of stopping a market melt-down. Was the FED the actual buyer post MLK? Probably not. Do you think some low level intern or disgruntled employee would have access to these types of market operations? No way man. The guys who conduct these operations probably rank up there with the CIA. I suppose CIA assassins are all one grand conspiracy as well.

http://burnickblog.sovereignsociety.com/2007/08/have-no-fear-th.html

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the trouble with you conspiricy nuts is you cant think logically. if the fed buys tons of futures they have to do something with them.
not to mention the mechanics of it all. futures trades can be tracked. why do you think it is that some lowly disgruntled employee at gs has not spilled the beans and wrote a book about the fed buying the market? it is gs that buys for the fed right? or does the fed have a futures account in their name?
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My argument for that it doesn't exist is that (a) there's no evidence and (b) there's no motivation to exist. Given that the lack of those two items would end most police investigations, shouldn't that tell you something about the case for PPT?
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police investigation? are you serious?:p

this is a joke right...?
 
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My argument for that it doesn't exist is that (a) there's no evidence and (b) there's no motivation to exist. Given that the lack of those two items would end most police investigations, shouldn't that tell you something about the case for PPT?
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There's all kinds of easy ways to show that the only meaningful way to substantiate a specific statement is by offering direct evidence. Plausible != true.
 
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police investigation? are you serious?:p

this is a joke right...?
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So the whole rally from March is just FED buying as the article says? :D
 
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So the whole rally from March is just FED buying as the article says? :D
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That's not what the article says. It says the $6 trillion increase in U.S. stock-market capitalization since March can't be explained by the usual sources of funds flowing into the market .

I did good last year before and after march until the market went dead in November, frankly, I really don't care who's on the other side of my trades, be it the PPT or my nextdoor neighboor.
 
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That's not what the article says. It says the $6 trillion increase in U.S. stock-market capitalization since March can't be explained by the usual sources of funds flowing into the market .

I did good last year before and after march until the market went dead in November, frankly, I really don't care who's on the other side of my trades, be it the PPT or my nextdoor neighboor.
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The only logical explanation for the extent of the rally, he suggested, is secret buying by a government committee known colloquially as the Plunge Protection Team. From the article
 
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The only logical explanation for the extent of the rally, he suggested, is secret buying by a government committee known colloquially as the Plunge Protection Team. From the article
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The "extent" of the rally....
 
I'm curious, why don't you think it's a good one? you said that my position is weak because I suppose the lack of evidence doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I pointed out that not only is there a lack of evidence, there's also a lack of motivation. If this were a police investigation into a criminal matter, the combination of those two things means that you don't have much of a case, just like this.

Leaving aside PPT for a second, what's wrong with this analogy. I'm not being factious

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Frankly not a good one but I respect your opinion.
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