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skeptic123:`And msfe's favorite tabloid Guardian was the most anti-Israel too.´

my favourite `tabloids´are written in French [ www.figaro.fr , www.lemonde.fr ] , in German [ www.nzz.ch , www.faz.net , www.ftd.de , www.spiegel.de ] , and Italian, Spanish, Dutch etc. only out of politeness i refer to American tabloids like New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times and serious British newspapers like Guardian, Observer etc. articles, because English is the preferred language of EliteTrader forums.
 
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Indeed it is. It is also the preferred language of the Internet, all international conventions etc. It is the preferred language of the world. Isn't it what the french are so upset about? Not just the language of course, but the fact that they no longer matter. Neither their economy, nor their millitary allow them to play any significant role in the world. There is a word for it - JEALOUSY. They did find a way to play a role though - by being a pain in the butt in absolutely every USA activity.

The country (France) once again lived up to its reputation of fighting its friends and allies and surrendering to its enemies. It still has not figured out it should be the other way around.

Anyway, you picked on one word "tabloid" in my post and pretty much ignored the rest of it - the charge of double standard, the fact that no proof was needed regarding "Jenin massacre" which was not, but no proof is good enough when it is coming from Collin Powell. I have to assume that you have nothing to say about it. The tabloids you read do not let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
skeptik123: `Indeed it [English] is. It is also the preferred language of the Internet, all international conventions etc. It is the preferred language of the world. Isn't it what the french are so upset about? Not just the language of course, but the fact that they no longer matter. Neither their economy, nor their millitary allow them to play any significant role in the world. There is a word for it - JEALOUSY. They did find a way to play a role though - by being a pain in the butt in absolutely every USA activity.´

you sound like personally having invented the English language - have you? with all due respect, i have serious doubts about English being the `preferred language of the world´, it´s definitely not the preferred language of the Continental European, Asian and S. American parts of the world. my experience tells me that the French don´t care much about foreigners and their languages, so they are hardly upset about other peoples´ preferences. as far as Europe [not just the EU] is concerned, France´s economy and military play an extremely significant role. the French are quite content with themselves and their role in the world. to my knowledge jealousy is not part of the French `national character´. to the contrary, they know for sure that they are the envy of the world.
 
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Quite possibly the most accurate statement you have ever made on ET. The French don't give a hoot about anyone except the French.
the French are quite content with themselves and their role in the world. to my knowledge jealousy is not part of the French `national character´. to the contrary, they know for sure that they are the envy of the world.
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Ha! Don't fool yourself, the French crave for the days when they were significant on the world stage, and they are the "envy of the world" solely for their croissants and masochists who love to be treated with contempt - boy you fit that description perfectly.
 
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`Ha! Don't fool yourself, the French crave for the days when they were significant on the world stage, and they are the "envy of the world" solely for their croissants and masochists who love to be treated with contempt - boy you fit that description perfectly.´

honestly, i would love to be a Frenchman if i had the choice.
 
more, from an authentic expert, on French, German, and Russian motivations, and, specifically, on those aluminum tubes:

Excerpt:


Iraq's attempt to import aluminum tubes of higher tensile strength than is needed in conventional weapons has been brushed aside by the IAEA's Mohammed El-Baradei. He claims there is no proof that these tubes were intended for modification and use in centrifuges to make enriched uranium. Yet he fails to report that Iraq has the machining equipment to thin these tubes down to the required thickness (less than one millimeter) for an efficient centrifuge rotor. What's more, they don't find it suspect that Iraq did not deliver all the computer controlled machining equipment that it imported from the British-based, Iraqi-owned Matrix-Churchill that manufacture these units.
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from
The Inspections Dodge
Why are France and Germany pro-Saddam? Follow the money.

BY KHIDHIR HAMZA
Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:01 a.m. EST

full article (registration required, very interesting reading, IMO) at:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003053
 
hapaboy: ´I'm hardly an all-knowing super-expert, but of course I was referring to your apparent fascination with infants as your post on another thread indicates:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...2292#post202292

Truly disturbing...´

quite right - truly disturbing. how does my `post´[a mere un-edited link] indicate my`apparent fascination with 20 year old infants´? believe me: so far, i haven´t found a fascinating hapaboy yet anywhere in the www - sorry, mate

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quite right - truly disturbing. how does my `post´[a mere un-edited link] indicate my`apparent fascination with 20 year old infants´? believe me: so far, i haven´t found a fascinating hapaboy yet anywhere in the www - sorry, mate
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Heh-heh, just admit you posted that link because of the baby picture, you randy old man you!

Otherwise, what possible motive could you have had to post the link, other than to insinuate that I'm a 20-year-old slacker? C'mon msfe, don't tell me you've been utterly destroyed on this board to the point that you have to take the time to do a web search on my username!! Shouldn't you be spending your time doing more frantic cut and pastes of your favorite publication, the Guardian?!?

Things must be VERY s-l-o-w in your remote Swiss Alps valley.

Like tampa, it's evident that you're coming apart at the seams with each post and passing day.
 
Excellent piece by Andrew Sullivan on Powell's appearance and aftermath:

http://www.andrewsullivan.com/main_article.php?artnum=20030209

EXCERPT:


Americans psychologically need international sanction to wield their power. That's why even this instinctually unilateralist president after the first attack on the American homeland in almost 200 hundred years, nevertheless went the U.N. route to tackle al Qaeda and Saddam in the first place. If at the end of that process, the U.N. is revealed as a body that does not care if its own resolutions are enforced, then either America will cease to consult it in the future, or America will withdraw again from the world. Both options should terrify anyone who hopes for a peaceful and stable global future.

What Powell is fighting for is the responsible, credible use of American military power channeled through the United Nations. What France and Russia and China and Germany are now fighting for is U.N. irrelevance, followed by bouts of American super-power unilateralism or isolationism. Those are the choices. Given Powell's past, given his convictions, given his commitment to multilateralism, is it any surprise which option he is now passionately trying to defend?
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