powell tells it like it is

[hapaboy]

Quote from tampa:

You, my fine young man, are too good to be true. You suffer from a common malady - the overwhelming desire to make the facts fit your preconceived conclusion.

The proof is in the pudding - your last sentence gives you away. Unable to comprehend how I might disagree with you, and unwilling to consider any argument I presented, you set out to find a reason that might explain our differences. Like any good ET member, you turned to the member profile section. There before your very eyes, you struck gold - "Location: Southern France" I cannot imagine what joy that "fact" must have brought to you! So much joy that you failed to consider that all of the entries in my "profile" are absurd. As an example, I listed finger printing as my main interest in life.

In your lust to make the "facts" fit your conclusion, you overlooked (denied) the the body of evidence, and extracted the one thing that could make your case - Location: Southern France.

You immediately accepted it as a fact, and with no real knowledge of the true facts, you proclaimed it to be so - all the while ignoring the other profile entries, and addressing me as "tampa".

Your need to make things appear as you want them to be has been demonstrated in all of your posts concerning our inevitable misadventure into Iraq, but never more clearly than in your last posting. You are an individual who simply does not take the time to think for himself - thank you for proving that with your foolish proclamation of the "fact" that I reside in Southern France.

The real fact is that I reside at 6408 West Granada Street, in Tampa Florida, and have never set foot off of American soil in my entire life.

LOL! You are totally and utterly predictable!

I hate to knock you off your teetering little horse, but I added that question about southern France at the end fully aware of the absurd entries in your profile. Why? Two reasons: 1) If by some minute chance you did live there, it could explain, to some extent, the nonsense you spew regarding the French/German position. That you do not and have in fact never even traveled beyond American soil only makes you more pathetic. 2) If you did NOT live there, I wanted to confirm that you would reply in the moronic manner that you in fact did - lengthy, self-congratulating, and entirely without substance. Thank you for proving me right.

What is not surprising in the slightest is that you have yet to address my comments in response to your posts that defended Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, N. Korea's invasion of the South, and ridiculed every soldier that was promoted during the Vietnam War solely on the basis that you disagree with that war.

So, my fine young gentleman with a penchant for horrific spelling (really, it makes your posts that much more painful to try and comprehend), please try and make more substantive arguments that go beyond Inspector Clouseau-ish speculation.

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from candletrader:



And if the USA goes ahead with an illegal war, we will also see a few more September 11s in the USA... yeeeehaaaaa!!!

God Bless America...

Are there any real men left in this world? are you afraid too candle? What is your real motivation? Is it because you are afraid? If so , say it. I respect Tampa because he admits in his heart he is afraid of what can happen...so why not just say it: IM AFRAID I MIGHT DIE.......it's ok to be afraid. self preservation is a human instinct....now, sit in the back of the house with the women and children and let the men handle this. This is why we have an army and leaders liek GW to make decisions that the emotionally can't. You are scared and rightly so, I on the other hand believe in what we are doing and have to admit that i believe there is ore work to be done

 

[candletrader]

Quote from TM_Direct:





Are there any real men left in this world? are you afraid too candle? What is your real motivation? Is it because you are afraid? If so , say it. I respect Tampa because he admits in his heart he is afraid of what can happen...so why not just say it: IM AFRAID I MIGHT DIE.......it's ok to be afraid. self preservation is a human instinct....now, sit in the back of the house with the women and children and let the men handle this. This is why we have an army and leaders liek GW to make decisions that the emotionally can't. You are scared and rightly so, I on the other hand believe in what we are doing and have to admit that i believe there is ore work to be done

Get your causality right dude... if we murder people, we must expect em to murder us... if we started behaving legally, then we wouldn't be the most despised country on this planet...

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from candletrader:



Get your causality right dude... if we murder people, we must expect em to murder us... if we started behaving legally, then we wouldn't be the most despised country on this planet...

Ok sonny, now sit back with the kids and let the men of the world handle this...would you like me to get you a bib? pacifier?

 

[daniel_m]

Quote from candletrader:


Get your causality right dude... if we murder people, we must expect em to murder us... if we started behaving legally, then we wouldn't be the most despised country on this planet...

maybe you could use a couple of lessons on causality (and more) yourself.

notwithstanding the fact that there would be nothing at all 'illegal' about an attack on iraq, it doesn't even follow that even america was universally perceived as behaving legally that she would be any less despised.

 

[candletrader]

Quote from daniel_m:


it doesn't even follow that even america was universally perceived as behaving legally that she would be any less despised.

Why doesnt she give it a go?! yeeehaaaa!!

 

[Josh_B]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2744957.stm

This is not to say we need to attack Iran,....
BUT it is ironic that the satellite pics that Powell produced were not only blurry but showed a couple of trucks outside a building. He claims the trucks could be used for transportation of WMD's...

Well isn't just about every vehicle on earth?

UN inspectors, were aware of them for months and the trucks are there on a daily basis, They have nothing to do with WMDs but move regular artillery sells.

We need to do a better job on substance too.

Josh

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from tampa:

You must forgive me. I foolishly thought that I had entered into a conversation with a rational individual - I have come to find that I am conversing with someone who states his hopes as fact, fabracates facts, and just plain makes things up. I can't see any point in continuing.

You must forgive the many of us who foolishly thought they had entered into a conversation with not only a rational individual, but an individual who could at the very least spell beyond a 5th-grade level. I mean, a few typos here and there are understandable, but when you mock the educational level of those debating against you, you should be somewhat educated yourself.

I voice my decent because I must - it is my duty.

And it will drain our recourses.

They might also serve as a deferent from invasion from a vastly superior country, such as America.

an individual who attempts to silence decent

Tampa has this fetish equating "decent" with "dissent." This makes him the most decent person on ET.

You may find our idea of demoecracy attractive

Is it surprising he can't even spell it?

I am confussed.

You can say that again!

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from Josh_B:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38798000/jpg/_38798965_bushehr-ap-300.jpg[/mg]

[url]http://news/2/hi/middle_east/74c[/url]

This is not to say we need to attack Iran,....
BUT it is ironic that the satellite pics that Powell produced were not only blurry but showed a couple of trucks outside a building. He claims the trucks could be used for transportation of WMD's...

Well isn't just about every vehicle on earth?

UN inspectors, were aware of them for months and the trucks are there on a daily basis, They have nothing to do with wmd but move regular artillery sells.

We need to do a better job on substance too.

Josh [/B][/QUOTE]



I was begging to think you'd never show up again, where you been?.....BTW,I have a question about the nuclear facilities in Iraq and Iran....I understand Korea's need for Nuke powered because there is no natural resources ther.....But could somebody tell me what Iran and Iraq need Nuclear power????/ The could drown in oil yet they want Nuke reactor???????? Is it safer then say, going out back and opening up an oil spicket?
:)

 

[TM_Direct]

Quote from hapaboy:


You must forgive the many of us who foolishly thought they had entered into a conversation with not only a rational individual, but an individual who could at the very least spell beyond a 5th-grade level. I mean, a few typos here and there are understandable, but when you mock the educational level of those debating against you, you should be somewhat educated yourself.




Tampa has this fetish equating "decent" with "dissent." This makes him the most decent person on ET.
Is it surprising he can't even spell it?
You can say that again!

Cmon H-boy... let's not get picky about spelling....we get the idea and if we are going to grade each other's papers , these threads will get three times as long.