Post economic collapse game plan

Quote from DrPepper:

However, I believe that anyone who truly understands the current world economic situation as well as the insane way that governments are dealing with it and cannot agree that there is at least the possiblility of an economic collapse, is irrational.
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what has surprised me ever since I was thirteen and yet doesn't fail to surprise me, is the stupidity of governments, they are just fucking retarded, every fucking one of them

a 1000 years down the road, people are going to look back and laugh their asses off at us, they will laugh at our stupidity for permitting a bunch of morons to run our lives, they will laugh at these fucked up stupid systems called governments that are incompetent at almost everything they do but fucking up people's lives, yet they consider themselves so flawless that they go around the world wages wars in the name of changing the form of the government of that country to that of their own (ie a democratic government wants to implement democracy in all the countries of the world, a communist system wants to do the same, islamic government wants the same shit)

those people, hundreds of years from now, will laugh at us, because a bunch of fags and bitches, fucked up psycho politicians lie to everyone in broad daylight, so evident their lies that one doesn't even need to think to realize it, yet people just sit there and take their shitty lies, even though if we lie to them, they will stick the biggest stick up our asses, and not only do people take their fucking retarded lies but they also permit those fag hags to tell them how to live their lives
 
Quote from jasonc:

I do not feel like this type of shift will lead to the level of social unrest where guns and food are key like some people seem to believe.
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I agree with you that social unrest is unlikely, but not that it is impossible. Taking a few simple, inexpensive steps to prepare for an economic or environmental disaster is like buying homeowners or auto insurance to prepare for the unlikely possibility of damage to your home or car.
 
Quote from DrPepper:

I agree with you that social unrest is unlikely, but not that it is impossible. Taking a few simple, inexpensive steps to prepare for an economic or environmental disaster is like buying homeowners or auto insurance to prepare for the unlikely possibility of damage to your home or car.
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Exactly ... I however did invest pretty heavily over a 20 year period into top end preparedness type items.

Over the last 2 years I have sold perhaps 1/3 of those items at an average of 10% profit over inflation.
(Some below cost, some considerably over cost.)

I may sell another 1/3 at roughly the same margin or better.
(Leaving me an ample supply or 1/3 of my original stock at held at 30% below current market values.)

If the economy tanks and times get desperate those items will be far more valuable than Gold.

So I turned it into an investment hedge and savings.
Homeowner or auto insurance can't provide that.
 
Quote from T_Geithner:

and even more surprising is the fact that governments give themselves the courage to demand respect
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I suspect they just want to enforce it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

The real danger is the threat of our second amendment rights.


U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said
gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
national controls were better.

On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative
process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international
treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by
foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and
promoted by organizations such as the United Nationsand individuals
such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and
intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of
gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before
US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before
the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any
legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control
laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton
is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control
laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that
there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes
in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United
States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition
manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another
morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any
transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another
morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US
citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government
collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
means necessary, so will gun control.
 
most countries around the world are trying hard to go forward and advance, america is trying hard to go backwards

you go to some supposedly third world country, the banking system is so advanced you can transfer money to any bank account through online banking and the transfer is instant, you deposit cash using the atm machine and the deposit is instant

while in america electronic transfers take days to process and to make matters worse the stupid government signed the patriot act which made bank transfers even more difficult, and like always they have a fucking excuse for it, and as always they claim it is for your own safety or for the safety of the country, 'this way we stop money laundering and terrorism funding', shut the fuck up silly bitches as if US banks are the only banks in the world and money launderers and terrorist funders have no other way of carrying out their actions, grow some balls pussy nation, accept the reality that trying to control everything is just fucking retarded
 
Already mentioned:

Pool resources with like-minded family/friends and buy rural farmland outside the US. Or, if that's not possible, do the same inside the US, close to the Mexican or Canadian border. Maintain livestock, guns, ammo, diesel tanks, drugs/meds, seeds, cash, greenhouse, wells/potable water source, and hunker down.

The US is done. I'm glad I don't live there. You Americans need to have an out, for sure.
 
Quote from unretired:

I suspect they just want to enforce it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

The real danger is the threat of our second amendment rights.


U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said
gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
national controls were better.

On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative
process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international
treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by
foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and
promoted by organizations such as the United Nationsand individuals
such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and
intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of
gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before
US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before
the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any
legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control
laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton
is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control
laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that
there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes
in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United
States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition
manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another
morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any
transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another
morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US
citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government
collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
means necessary, so will gun control.
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Did you take note of the explosion in firearm sales after Obama was elected? People who never even owned one before were and are buying now. I drove by a local shooting range the other day and it was packed, something I had not seen there before. Ordinary Americans have taken note.
 
Quote from chrisjs87:

It's obvious that a good percentage of the people that post here believe the collapse of the US economy is not only inevitable but imminent. My questions for those that believe this is:

What exactly is your game plan after the collapse?
What have you done in preparation?
What can be done?
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While many motherfuckers here are fakers and pretenders...I now have 23 acres in Hawaii - ROFLMAO!!!! No poisonous snakes, no poisonous spiders (some have said there are brown recluse - I have not seen 'em). I am on the east side of the Big Island - land prices below what I see here in TX!!!!. I get LOTS of rain - into my collection system - no water shortage here :D Taxes are not hideous on land ownership. I already have bananas, lemons, limes, tangerines...and all kinds of other stuff growing on my property!. The average temp is NOT so bad that I need heat OR air conditioning. It is STILL a STATE...so, I speak the language of the place AND can read legal documents - I am a US citizen!!!. I have a Walmart, Sears, Home Depot, Macy's, etc. just a few miles from my properties. For the dumb fucks going to Costa Rica or something...and that do NOT speak and read Spanish...good luck with that!!!! Here dumb fuck....just sign this...(that hands your property over), but, it is written in Spanish...so it is OK - ROFLMAO!!!!

-gastropod

-P.S. BLSH - if you are still out here - props!!! to you and your fam! I have a place for me and my fam :-)
 
Quote from gastropod:

While many motherfuckers here are fakers and pretenders...I now have 23 acres in Hawaii - ROFLMAO!!!! No poisonous snakes, no poisonous spiders (some have said there are brown recluse - I have not seen 'em). I am on the east side of the Big Island - land prices below what I see here in TX!!!!. I get LOTS of rain - into my collection system - no water shortage here :D Taxes are not hideous on land ownership. I already have bananas, lemons, limes, tangerines...and all kinds of other stuff growing on my property!. The average temp is NOT so bad that I need heat OR air conditioning. It is STILL a STATE...so, I speak the language of the place AND can read legal documents - I am a US citizen!!!. I have a Walmart, Sears, Home Depot, Macy's, etc. just a few miles from my properties. For the dumb fucks going to Costa Rica or something...and that do NOT speak and read Spanish...good luck with that!!!! Here dumb fuck....just sign this...(that hands your property over), but, it is written in Spanish...so it is OK - ROFLMAO!!!!

-gastropod
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and how much did you buy your 23 acres for
 
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