So the gap became bigger instead of smaller, what Trump was hoping.
If there was fraud it was commited by the Republicans as the Democrats have now more votes .
20621 instead of 20565
Possible Election Fraud in Progress
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So the gap became bigger instead of smaller, what Trump was hoping.
If there was fraud it was commited by the Republicans as the Democrats have now more votes .
20621 instead of 20565
Should I list everything you've said concerning people/groups of people who disagree with you on the "election fraud" ? It's a lot. And it's not us with something to prove it's you. And so far you've failed miserably doing so, just like Trump. Not one bit of my argument is "losing". Go ahead, show me ANYTHING I've posted that is verifiably wrong in any way. I've told you, if election fraud is identified and proven I'll accept it.
Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, PPT Team Buying Massive Amounts of Stocks/Stock Etfs, Systematic Fraud in the US Election of 2020.
What is common in all of these topics, besides a lot
. Anyways, I'm done with this. When you find your fraud I'll review it.
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Below is part one of a series of a video interview of a electronic voting system expert that I’ve annotated. Time references are included for the start of each major point or Powerpoint slide. I will post screenshots of the powerpoint presentation at a later date.
Those wishing to view the source video can find it here:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/voting-machine-election-fraud-smoking-gun.352388/
2:00 - 3:00 Interviewer introduces Russell Ramsland, expert and founding member of Allied Security Operations.
3:00 - 4:00 Background of Allied Security Operations and their employees, some of whom are from “Three letter government agencies”.
3:40 - 4:30 Allied Security became involved investigating concerns over electronic voting based on credible reports of “Activists” who presented logs of a voting system.
4:35 (Slide) Summary of findings
6:35. “Votes can and are being switched”.
6:45. “Anyone wanting to change votes can also change audit trail”.
7:00. (Slide) Definition of election fraud
8:20. Updated (Slide)
8:30. (Slide) Evidence of tampering
11:35 (Slide) Methodology with list of meetings regarding electronic voting security.
14:05 Mention of BMDs, Ballot Marking Devices. Although the interviewee said he was not going to go into detail in this video, he actually does later on and says a voter can mark the ballot for their candidate, but the vote could still be recorded for the other candidate. More on this in the final part of this series.
14:25. (Slide) 2017 Report of US Electronic System Vulnerabilities.
14:50. Mention of “Big IP”, platform updates.
15:15. (Slide) List of six voting companies comprising 92% of market in 2018.
16:40. More details on hacking audit trails.
17:30. Update (Slide), final.
17:50. (Slide) US voting system is connected to internet. Gives example of connected servers associated with Dallas, TX.
18:10. Update (Slide) List of IP addresses Dallas voting system connects to.
18:25. Update (Slide) List of Texas voting sites that share same SSL certificate and why this is a security problem.
18:45. Update (Slide), final.
19:20 (Slide) Flowchart of US Electronic Voting System. EMS - Electronic Management Systems.
20:55 Clarity Elections owned by Scytl. More on this later.
22:00. Known malware that can be used to “backload votes”.
22:30 Official data server is behind same firewall as unofficial server.
22:45. Investigation reveals muliple ways to change votes.
23:20. Updated (Slide) Six ways votes can be changed in system.
There are several elements in play here. They are physical ballots, electronic vote counts, and voter registration databases. Extreme voting statistics indicate serious irregularities in swing state elections, up to and possibly including election fraud.
The next part of this series will follow either tonight or by tomorrow night.
Those wishing to view the source video can find it here:
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/voting-machine-election-fraud-smoking-gun.352388/
2:00 - 3:00 Interviewer introduces Russell Ramsland, expert and founding member of Allied Security Operations.
3:00 - 4:00 Background of Allied Security Operations and their employees, some of whom are from “Three letter government agencies”.
3:40 - 4:30 Allied Security became involved investigating concerns over electronic voting based on credible reports of “Activists” who presented logs of a voting system.
4:35 (Slide) Summary of findings
6:35. “Votes can and are being switched”.
6:45. “Anyone wanting to change votes can also change audit trail”.
7:00. (Slide) Definition of election fraud
8:20. Updated (Slide)
8:30. (Slide) Evidence of tampering
11:35 (Slide) Methodology with list of meetings regarding electronic voting security.
14:05 Mention of BMDs, Ballot Marking Devices. Although the interviewee said he was not going to go into detail in this video, he actually does later on and says a voter can mark the ballot for their candidate, but the vote could still be recorded for the other candidate. More on this in the final part of this series.
14:25. (Slide) 2017 Report of US Electronic System Vulnerabilities.
14:50. Mention of “Big IP”, platform updates.
15:15. (Slide) List of six voting companies comprising 92% of market in 2018.
16:40. More details on hacking audit trails.
17:30. Update (Slide), final.
17:50. (Slide) US voting system is connected to internet. Gives example of connected servers associated with Dallas, TX.
18:10. Update (Slide) List of IP addresses Dallas voting system connects to.
18:25. Update (Slide) List of Texas voting sites that share same SSL certificate and why this is a security problem.
18:45. Update (Slide), final.
19:20 (Slide) Flowchart of US Electronic Voting System. EMS - Electronic Management Systems.
20:55 Clarity Elections owned by Scytl. More on this later.
22:00. Known malware that can be used to “backload votes”.
22:30 Official data server is behind same firewall as unofficial server.
22:45. Investigation reveals muliple ways to change votes.
23:20. Updated (Slide) Six ways votes can be changed in system.
There are several elements in play here. They are physical ballots, electronic vote counts, and voter registration databases. Extreme voting statistics indicate serious irregularities in swing state elections, up to and possibly including election fraud.
The next part of this series will follow either tonight or by tomorrow night.
What you show makes no sense if you don't have the full procedure and an EXPERT who can explain what's happening and why.
But the question if there is fraud or not can be easily be answered by the biggest expert in the US: Chris Krebs is the highest cybersecurity expert in the US. He is appointed by Trump and responsable for controling the election procedures and for protecting it against hackers.
Chris Krebs confirmed that he rejected the accusation from Trump about election fraude. I am sure Chris Krebs is 100 times better positioned to answer correctly than any other person.
After Chris Krebs told this, Trump fired him yesterday. Chris Krebs became from the best, smartest most fitted cybersecurity expert who did a unbelievable good job (according to Trump) , suddenly the most worthless idiot according to Trump. Typical Trump. If you are on his side you are the best, if you are on the other side you are worthless and stupid.
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Judges are handing out fresh blows to Trump campaign in rival state
The Republicans have again suffered a number of legal and political defeats in their attempts to have the results of the presidential election declared invalid. In the conflicted state of Pennsylvania, Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani could in no way substantiate his claim that mass fraud has taken place in front of the court. The Supreme Court of the same state also disagreed with the campaign in another case.
The Trump camp was blunt when the Supreme Court ruled that the Electoral Council in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's largest city, acted correctly by keeping observers at bay when counting the votes. Earlier, a lower court had agreed with Republicans in their claim by ordering observers to keep an eye on the count at 2 meters away, and not at 5 meters as previously determined.
The Supreme Court is now rejecting that lower court decision. According to the Supreme Court, the Philadelphia Electoral Council did have the right to set the rules around the observers. Five judges agreed with the electoral council, two voted against. This invalidates one of the greatest arguments of the Trump campaign: according to the Republicans, all votes counted while observers were further away should be declared invalid. But even the two Republican Supreme Court justices who went against their colleagues felt that argument was going too far.
At the same time as the Supreme Court session, another hearing was filed in Pennsylvania to prevent Democrat Joe Biden from being declared the winner. Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani himself pleaded in court, but came home from a bare journey. The pattern of recent weeks since the election has been repeated, with Giuliani constantly claiming on Trump's behalf that "widespread, nationwide voting fraud" has occurred, and the state subsequently denouncing those claims as baseless "speculation".
Trump-defended state attorneys dismissed the charges and asked the federal judge to declare the case inadmissible. If Trump loses the lawsuit in Pennsylvania, his last chance to get a second term in the White House in court may be gone.
Correct mistakes
The Trump campaign had already toned down the allegations in the case on Sunday. The president's team had reduced the charge to claiming that voters were falsely given the opportunity to correct errors in their postal ballots, such as if they had not used the mandatory second nondisclosure envelope. That would have happened especially in districts with many Democratic voters. State representatives have argued that some such errors have been corrected, but not without reason. Districts are allowed to contact voters to inform them that they made mistakes in casting their votes, state lawyers argued. Districts with a lot of Republican voters should have done that too, but it is not the fault of the districts with a lot of Democratic voters that they have not, it was said.
“Taking away the voting rights of every voter: how is that justified?"
Judge Matthew Brann seemed to agree with that reasoning, saying that the Trump campaign's claim was exaggerated. Ultimately, you are asking for 6.8 million votes to be declared invalid, which would deprive the voting rights of every voter in the state. "Can you tell me how that result would be in any way justified?" He asked rhetorically of Giuliani, who had not been an advocate for decades. The former mayor of New York and today one of Trump's closest supporters continued to reiterate that “widespread national electoral fraud” had been committed, but again failed to provide any evidence.
According to the lawyer representing the Pennsylvania districts, Giuliani "lives in a fantasy world." “Dismiss this case so we can get on with the important stuff. Stop this ”, he summoned the judge.
The federal judge is expected to make a decision soon. The Trump campaign wants to prevent the election results in Pennsylvania from being made official, as Secretary of the Interior of the State Kathy Boockvar wants to do on Monday. According to preliminary figures, Joe Biden won the leading state with 20 electors with a 70,000 vote lead, or 49.9 percent versus 48.8 percent for Trump.
Detroit approves results
Bad news for the Trump camp also came from Michigan, where the largest district including the city of Detroit finally certified the results of the election after a chaotic session. In the virtual Zoom meeting of the Wayne County Electoral Council that included two Republicans and two Democrats, there was first a stalemate, with Republicans declining to approve the 68.1 percent for Biden and the 30.7 percent for Trump because of “ irregularities ”. Wayne County accounts for about 20 percent of all Michigan votes.
The Democrats could not accept that both Republicans only made problems of the result in Democratic-minded Wayne County, and not in other, more Republican-minded districts. Ultimately, the Zoom public meeting was inundated with a total of 300 progressive local politicians and activists, who were vehemently against the two Republicans. After three hours of arguing, the meeting was adjourned, and in a new vote the two voted with their Democratic colleagues anyway.
Across Michigan, Biden now has a 150,000 vote lead, or 50.5 percent versus 47.9 percent for Trump.
The latter praised the original decision of the Wayne County Electoral Council on Twitter: “Wow! Michigan just declined to approve the election results! Courage is a beautiful thing. The United States is proud! ” The president did not tweet anything about the final decision.
The last sentence is clear proof how Trump is always cheating and sending disinformation.
Reality is that Michigan, where the largest district including the city of Detroit finally certified the results of the election.
Judges are handing out fresh blows to Trump campaign in rival state
The Republicans have again suffered a number of legal and political defeats in their attempts to have the results of the presidential election declared invalid. In the conflicted state of Pennsylvania, Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani could in no way substantiate his claim that mass fraud has taken place in front of the court. The Supreme Court of the same state also disagreed with the campaign in another case.
The Trump camp was blunt when the Supreme Court ruled that the Electoral Council in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania's largest city, acted correctly by keeping observers at bay when counting the votes. Earlier, a lower court had agreed with Republicans in their claim by ordering observers to keep an eye on the count at 2 meters away, and not at 5 meters as previously determined.
The Supreme Court is now rejecting that lower court decision. According to the Supreme Court, the Philadelphia Electoral Council did have the right to set the rules around the observers. Five judges agreed with the electoral council, two voted against. This invalidates one of the greatest arguments of the Trump campaign: according to the Republicans, all votes counted while observers were further away should be declared invalid. But even the two Republican Supreme Court justices who went against their colleagues felt that argument was going too far.
At the same time as the Supreme Court session, another hearing was filed in Pennsylvania to prevent Democrat Joe Biden from being declared the winner. Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani himself pleaded in court, but came home from a bare journey. The pattern of recent weeks since the election has been repeated, with Giuliani constantly claiming on Trump's behalf that "widespread, nationwide voting fraud" has occurred, and the state subsequently denouncing those claims as baseless "speculation".
Trump-defended state attorneys dismissed the charges and asked the federal judge to declare the case inadmissible. If Trump loses the lawsuit in Pennsylvania, his last chance to get a second term in the White House in court may be gone.
Correct mistakes
The Trump campaign had already toned down the allegations in the case on Sunday. The president's team had reduced the charge to claiming that voters were falsely given the opportunity to correct errors in their postal ballots, such as if they had not used the mandatory second nondisclosure envelope. That would have happened especially in districts with many Democratic voters. State representatives have argued that some such errors have been corrected, but not without reason. Districts are allowed to contact voters to inform them that they made mistakes in casting their votes, state lawyers argued. Districts with a lot of Republican voters should have done that too, but it is not the fault of the districts with a lot of Democratic voters that they have not, it was said.
“Taking away the voting rights of every voter: how is that justified?"
Judge Matthew Brann seemed to agree with that reasoning, saying that the Trump campaign's claim was exaggerated. Ultimately, you are asking for 6.8 million votes to be declared invalid, which would deprive the voting rights of every voter in the state. "Can you tell me how that result would be in any way justified?" He asked rhetorically of Giuliani, who had not been an advocate for decades. The former mayor of New York and today one of Trump's closest supporters continued to reiterate that “widespread national electoral fraud” had been committed, but again failed to provide any evidence.
According to the lawyer representing the Pennsylvania districts, Giuliani "lives in a fantasy world." “Dismiss this case so we can get on with the important stuff. Stop this ”, he summoned the judge.
The federal judge is expected to make a decision soon. The Trump campaign wants to prevent the election results in Pennsylvania from being made official, as Secretary of the Interior of the State Kathy Boockvar wants to do on Monday. According to preliminary figures, Joe Biden won the leading state with 20 electors with a 70,000 vote lead, or 49.9 percent versus 48.8 percent for Trump.
Detroit approves results
Bad news for the Trump camp also came from Michigan, where the largest district including the city of Detroit finally certified the results of the election after a chaotic session. In the virtual Zoom meeting of the Wayne County Electoral Council that included two Republicans and two Democrats, there was first a stalemate, with Republicans declining to approve the 68.1 percent for Biden and the 30.7 percent for Trump because of “ irregularities ”. Wayne County accounts for about 20 percent of all Michigan votes.
The Democrats could not accept that both Republicans only made problems of the result in Democratic-minded Wayne County, and not in other, more Republican-minded districts. Ultimately, the Zoom public meeting was inundated with a total of 300 progressive local politicians and activists, who were vehemently against the two Republicans. After three hours of arguing, the meeting was adjourned, and in a new vote the two voted with their Democratic colleagues anyway.
Across Michigan, Biden now has a 150,000 vote lead, or 50.5 percent versus 47.9 percent for Trump.
The latter praised the original decision of the Wayne County Electoral Council on Twitter: “Wow! Michigan just declined to approve the election results! Courage is a beautiful thing. The United States is proud! ” The president did not tweet anything about the final decision.
The last sentence is clear proof how Trump is always cheating and sending disinformation.
Reality is that Michigan, where the largest district including the city of Detroit finally certified the results of the election.
This shows clearly how Trump is a liar.
Bad news for the Trump camp also came from Michigan, where the largest district including the city of Detroit finally certified the results of the election after a chaotic session.
The Democrats could not accept that both Republicans only made problems of the result in Democratic-minded Wayne County, and not in other, more Republican-minded districts. Ultimately, the Zoom public meeting was inundated with a total of 300 progressive local politicians and activists, who were vehemently against the two Republicans. After three hours of arguing, the meeting was adjourned, and in a new vote the two voted with their Democratic colleagues anyway.
This was Trump's reaction:
I think Trump's brain is more sleepy than Joe's.
Bad news for the Trump camp also came from Michigan, where the largest district including the city of Detroit finally certified the results of the election after a chaotic session.
The Democrats could not accept that both Republicans only made problems of the result in Democratic-minded Wayne County, and not in other, more Republican-minded districts. Ultimately, the Zoom public meeting was inundated with a total of 300 progressive local politicians and activists, who were vehemently against the two Republicans. After three hours of arguing, the meeting was adjourned, and in a new vote the two voted with their Democratic colleagues anyway.
This was Trump's reaction:
I think Trump's brain is more sleepy than Joe's.
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Pair Charged With Voter Fraud Allegedly Submitted Thousands of Fraudulent Applications on Behalf of Homeless People
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...cations-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/
A man who tried to run for mayor in Hawthorne is among two people charged in a voter fraud case in which thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications were allegedly submitted on behalf of homeless people, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office announced Tuesday.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...cations-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/
A man who tried to run for mayor in Hawthorne is among two people charged in a voter fraud case in which thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications were allegedly submitted on behalf of homeless people, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office announced Tuesday.
Trump campaign filing for partial Wisconsin recount, deposits $3 million to challenge Biden victory
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/18/tru...consin-recount-challenging-biden-victory.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/18/tru...consin-recount-challenging-biden-victory.html
This is what happens when "get out the vote" groups pay people money for each collected voter registration form. Same problem occurs over & over. The good news is that these normally get flagged and the fake "voters" never show up to actually vote.
Michigander Calls Out Republicans Who Tried To Stop Vote Certification In Epic Takedown
Entrepreneur Ned Staebler warns the two GOP officials in Wayne County of how history will view them.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wayn...ation-ned-staebler_n_5fb4972bc5b69969a6a04528