Possible Election Fraud in Progress

[BeautifulStranger]

A dizzying array of false claims and conspiracy theories have dominated social and ultraconservative media since the early morning after Election Day.

“Dizzying array”, “False claims”, “Conspiracy theories”, “”Dominated”?

These are words of propagandists who are trying to delegitimize the effort to ensure election integrity against reasonable concerns over voter and election fraud which may be election changing.

 

[El OchoCinco]

The 592 ballots in question can be disputed for reasons that don’t include fraud. These ballots can be defective in some other way, making them invalid.

Besides, there are still unaddressed indicators of fraud that involve several states, including PA, and are apparently on a much larger scale than 592 votes.

UNless you have personal knowledge of actual issues of fraud or invalidity then you are just guessing arent you...

Just like the lawyer in PA who got shot down......sitting in your basement computer you don't have any actual proof..you are just repeating the dog whistle claims by the guy who lost the election.... because someone who loses an election always accepts it without bitching and complaining..

 

[El OchoCinco]

Where is the GREAT SHARPIE FRAUD OF 2020 haha

 

[Buy1Sell2]

UNless you have personal knowledge of actual issues of fraud or invalidity then you are just guessing arent you...

This is why Republicans should have been allowed to see and inspect the ballots. If Biden wins in December, he will never be able to claim a legitimate victory without the election being transparent and fair. He should want everything looked at. Of course, he really isn't running the show.

 

[Nine_Ender]

The reason why I asked these questions is it seemed you were implying the case you cited did not indicate fraud, that all future cases would not indicate fraud.

You are trying to minimize the significance of the many indications of fraud and invalid ballots rather than maximizing the importance of ensuring the integrity of our elections and the legitimacy of the Presidency. As such, it seems you, other Leftist posters, the Democrat Party, and the Leftist media are not really confident that fraud did not take place and they consider gaining power by any means necessary are justified.

Let me put it simply for you. Yes, many of us are saying there in no election fraud, and not even credible signs that there is fraud. This is not a political conclusion. Let me tell you how this plays out. No fraud of any significance is found, and the world moves on. Irrational people like you put this on the inability of people to find the fraud, not the absence of it. You are already saying on this site if no fraud is found it may be because the Republicans aren't skilled enough to find it.

Your whole premise is ridiculous.

 

[Nine_Ender]

UNless you have personal knowledge of actual issues of fraud or invalidity then you are just guessing arent you...

Just like the lawyer in PA who got shot down......sitting in your basement computer you don't have any actual proof..you are just repeating the dog whistle claims by the guy who lost the election.... because someone who loses an election always accepts it without bitching and complaining..

The longer some of these posters push these narratives regardless of the evidence the more it appears they lack decent critical thinking skills. Imagine a world where every event got bogged down by this political bs; that's the disease in the US right now political goals supercede the truth, science, and cost considerations. The US already has too many lawyers.

 

[BeautifulStranger]

UNless you have personal knowledge of actual issues of fraud or invalidity then you are just guessing arent you...

Just like the lawyer in PA who got shot down......sitting in your basement computer you don't have any actual proof..you are just repeating the dog whistle claims by the guy who lost the election.... because someone who loses an election always accepts it without bitching and complaining..

Actually, I’ve personally observed the indications of fraud as described in the beginning of this thread. Further, I talked to a data analyst at the Texas office of a Republican Representative who talked specifically of several examples that indicate large scale election fraud. I have also learned about the many vulnerabilities in our voting system and the many examples of fraud as shown by a site dedicated to tracking voting related fraud, As shown a few posts back. Further, Democrats have a history of opposing anti-fraud provisions such as ID requirements.

Speaking of dog whistles, why most all Leftist posters here are opposing transparency? Rhetorical question, of course.

Regardless, due to apparent stonewalling by Democrat election officials, unequal application of election rules, a PA Democrat judge acting beyond the scope of his authority, and five apparently obstructionist Democrat Governors in the contested swing states in question, it appears inevitable this election contest goes to the Supreme Court.

Speaking of evidence, I or the media do not get to impose remedies based on the evidence, the courts do. All the blogger, media and Democrat Party whining is not going to change the fact that the many election fraud indications in multiple states are going to the court.

The media, bloggers, and your characterization the Lawyer in PA got “Shot down”, does not necessarily make the votes in question valid. Only that in that particular example out of many future and more substantial cases, the attorney did not prove fraud to the satisfaction of the judge. Again, there are many cases left to be decided that involve much larger numbers of questionable or fraudulent votes.

 

[BeautifulStranger]

Let me put it simply for you. Yes, many of us are saying there in no election fraud, and not even credible signs that there is fraud. This is not a political conclusion. Let me tell you how this plays out. No fraud of any significance is found, and the world moves on. Irrational people like you put this on the inability of people to find the fraud, not the absence of it. You are already saying on this site if no fraud is found it may be because the Republicans aren't skilled enough to find it.

Your whole premise is ridiculous.

You saying there is no fraud doe not mean there is no fraud. It is too bad Democrats are not on board in ensuring transparent and fair elections. Fortunately, our system has checks and balances against situations like these. The check and balance I’m talking about is our court system.

Reality check: Do you see or not see this election contest as going to the courts for a possible remedy(ies) or a ruling in favor of the defense?

 

[Buy1Sell2]

You saying there is no fraud doe not mean there is no fraud. It is too bad Democrats are not on board in ensuring transparent and fair elections. Fortunately, our system has checks and balances against situations like these. The check and balance I’m talking about is our court system.

Reality check: Do you see or not see this election contest as going to the courts for a possible remedy(ies) or a ruling in favor of the defense?

Anyone telling you that there is zero fraud is a liar. Anyone telling you that the election with mail-in ballots was exquisite and seamless when this was the first time for it with this scale is a liar.

 

[Nine_Ender]

You saying there is no fraud doe not mean there is no fraud. It is too bad Democrats are not on board in ensuring transparent and fair elections. Fortunately, our system has checks and balances against situations like these. The check and balance I’m talking about is our court system.

Reality check: Do you see or not see this election contest as going to the courts for a possible remedy(ies) or a ruling in favor of the defense?

You are misrepresenting the "Democrats" position, much as you misrepresent the position of posters like myself on this board. The onus is on you to prove what you believe occurred not on those of us who don't believe any of it. And there are checks and balances in the courts to prevent nuisance cases and if need be those who claim physical evidence that doesn't exist should be charged with a crime. Yes, I know Americans are highly litigious in nature and Trump brings it to a ridiculous level. So what.