Quote from Dogballoon:
Who are these "head Muslim clerics" and what did they say about these events? You have to know who they are to make this claim, so I'm curious. I don't even know, and I doubt you do either.
If you took the time to Google the search as I explained to do so, you would find out who they are and what they said (or haven't said).
What did they say about 9/11 for that matter?
See above, or do another Google search.
What did Tony Blair say about Haditha?
I don't know. I'd imagine he's waiting, as we all are, for the trial to take place and for there to be an outcome. And what does that have to do with Muslim reaction to the Pope quoting centuries-old text?
What did Pat Robertson say when Anne Coulter said we should invade every Muslim country and convert them all to Christianity? ... Are these smart questions or bonehead questions?
What are you saying in response to my response? Are you being smart or are you a bonehead?
It would be big news. But that's because it's Sistani and the Ayatollah of Iran. These are people put in power by people who represent the theocratic, reactionary groups who have a specific hatred of the U.S. and Israel (and, might I add, Operation Ajax by the CIA was a direct cause of these people's prominence in the first place). Yes, these reactionaries form a large part of many ME countries, and their political leaders pander to them to maintain power.
They are not only political leaders, but supposedly RELIGIOUS leaders, and the religion in this case is Islam.
But we are not asking whether radicals exist, but talking about Islam, and Muslims -- since boneheads are claiming that Islam and Muslims are, by nature, radical.
What boneheads are saying these things? I don't know who you're referring to, and I doubt you do either.
Again, who are "leading" clerics and who do they represent? And ... why is it an issue if they're calling for an apology and calling it an assault on Islam...?
See above + it is not an assault on Islam.
so .......?
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Hey, you were the genius who posted the links, which obviously did nothing to validate your point, which is fast becoming lost.
Find out for me how long it took Bush to comment on Haditha.
No thanks. Seems you're fixated on Haditha, and wish that the President had condemned the Marines prior to the matter being adjudicated in a court of law, i.e. Mad Murtha.
It seems as if every time there is any controversy you expect all Muslims across the world to immediately inform the English speaking press that they disagree with what some extremists somewhere say.
No, I expect their religious leaders to not implore their followers to kill Catholics, murder the Pope, and burn churches. And secondly, if one of their leaders does so, for the other leaders to condemn it. How many Muslim leaders have condemned the actions of the cleric in Somalia who implored his followers to murder the Pope? Why don't you research that?
If they don't, or if they say something to their community only, or if they say something to the press and you don't hear about, then ... what? All Muslims are sympathetic with extremists? You have carte blanche to assume they hate you and want to rape your wife?
Of course not.
This is supreme bonehead think. Never did I say that ALL terrorists come from poverty. I never will. But it's an extremely OBVIOUS fact that extremism finds ripe breeding ground in areas where there is high unemployment, low development, and where the middle class has little access to the political process. It's a waste of time for me to get in convesations with people that don't understand this very basic observation. Pick up the "Eurabia" issue of the Economist if you think this opinion is hairbrained. Look closely at this map:
http://www.lastingnews.com/maps/cartoons_protests.html
This should make my point a bit more clear. And before you get an enormous erection and think all those red dots are huge, massive zones of bloodshed, zoom in and look at each country.
Well, it's also an OBVIOUS fact that "the areas where there is high unemployment, low development, and where the middle class has little access to the political process" describes most of the world, yet, for some reason, it is in the Muslim countries with the above conditions which breed the most violent extremists.
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