Just to clarify RM. My point to LoZZZer and to EVERYONE who looks upon the U.S. invasion of Iraq as a "criminal" act. IMO the U.S. being in Iraq is not at all different than the U.S. declaring war on Germany in 1941. Hitler was the elected chancellor of a sovereign republic. Germany never attempted an overtly aggressive act toward the U.S. nor to our territories. In other words Hitler was just a guy doing bad things to "his people" much like what Saddam was doing to the Kurds and dissenting Shiites. The question I posed to LoZZEr was "is the
degree of tyranny the arbiter of entering an unprovoked war?
There's interesting parallels between the two men. While Saddam feared a Shia majority would ultimately lead secular Iraq down the road to an Iranian style theocracy, Hitler felt that a small number of Jews (Germany was
1% Jewish) would endorse a Soviet inspired proletariat revolution in Germany. History of course ignores the viable communist threat perpetuated during the German economic crisis of the 1920's into the early 30's.
The treaty at Versailles caused Germany horrific hardship. The allies forced a particularly unjust settlement upon Germany especially considering that they did not start WWl but were merely responding to obligations contained by treaty. Nazism was a response to nationalistic Germans who wanted their land back.
IMO, Roosevelt was a war monger who sought out conflict with the two nations who were on the front line against communism. Germany and Japan. 500,000 American men (when we only had a population of 150m) lost their lives fighting a war that had no American interest. People will say, "well what if Hitler hadn't been stopped?" Well I'd answer to those, "do you think FDR's blowjob to Stalin at Yalta created a BETTER life for those in partitioned East Germany, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Lithuania, etal than the alternative of Nazism. All we did was beat Hitler so that we could prop up the U.S.S.R and spend trillions the next 45 years fighting communist aggression via the Cold war. We also lost another 100,000 boys in Korea and Viet Nam against communist forces funded by Red China. It was however the FDR administration who went apeshit over every "act" of "aggression" by Japan in China.
In the defeat of Germany the Brit's and U.S. bombed Dresden causing the deaths of possibly 200,000 people. Dresden was a nice town and held ZERO strategic importance. It's bombing was a war crime.
So yes, RM, I think FDR was not only as bad as Hitler I think he was
worse. Hitler had an axe to grind. He was trying to do what he thought was best for Germany, as misguided as a genocidal war may be. FDR's motivation? Like Bush he wanted to be BMOC. He was a mamma's boy in a wheel chair who hadn't fucked his wife in 15 years. He was a commie admirer who handed Eastern Europe over to Russia. He fought a war not to help the world but to build an arms making industrial giant impervious to the nagging depression that he was unable to end. Little known fact but U.S. unemployment was as great in 1939 as it was at the "height" of the depression. As everyone should know, about 70% of American's were OPPOSED to the U.S. fighting on the side of Britain prior to Pearl Harbor. By egging the Jap's on, FDR got permission to fight the war he had been seeking for so long.
Quote from Rearden Metal:
"ZZZzzzzzzz (Sep 14, 2006 1:04:06 PM)
i have to get that on record Pabst
ZZZzzzzzzz (Sep 14, 2006 1:04:16 PM)
you think FDR worse than Hitler
Pabst (Sep 14, 2006 1:04:21 PM)
as bad
ZZZzzzzzzz (Sep 14, 2006 1:04:22 PM)
you admire Hitler, hate FDR
Pabst (Sep 14, 2006 1:04:22 PM)
yes"
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WTF Pabst? Admire Hitler???
Please tell me the troll just made this up.
Say it ain't so, Pabst.