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Pope implicated in covering up sex abuse:
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The establishment which you are a willing member and participant has been found covering up decades of monstrous acts of rape and abuse against minors entrusted to its care.Quote from jem:
Nice misdirection there zealout.
Still does not explain why you go on the atheism is correct offensive everytime the word God is used on elitetrader.
Especially when you can't prove it.
As to why I would react to that, irrespective of the word God or the fact that the Catholic Church is itself culprit, is hardly relevant .
And all you can do is say you may withhold a few dollars from the collection plate , and call people names.
Perhaps the idea of being globally despised appeals to some weird aspects of your Catholic guilt, in yet another religiously motivated perverse exercise of disregarding what really matters .
Quote from stu:
The establishment which you are a willing member and participant has been found covering up decades of monstrous acts of rape and abuse against minors entrusted to its care.
As to why I would react to that, irrespective of the word God or the fact that the Catholic Church is itself culprit, is hardly relevant .
And all you can do is say you may withhold a few dollars from the collection plate , and call people names.
Perhaps the idea of being globally despised appeals to some weird aspects of your Catholic guilt, in yet another religiously motivated perverse exercise of disregarding what really matters .
More misdirection zealout.
You are acting like your only zeal is against the Catholic Church.
But, you zeal is not confined to child molesters. Is it?
Your Catholic priests raped children, your Catholic Church covered it up, You are a Catholic.Quote from jem:
More misdirection zealout.
You are acting like your only zeal is against the Catholic Church.
But, you zeal is not confined to child molesters. Is it?
Are you suggesting no one should have the zeal to point that out.
Face it, you're a lot nearer to Catholic pedophilia than I am to being a zealot.
Perhaps you should seriously get to terms with the fact youâre a member of a ring, complicit in the sexual abuse of children.
Quote from stu:
Your Catholic priests raped children, your Catholic Church covered it up,
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âCases of this kind are subject to the pontifical secretâ. It also states that all investigations are to be conducted within the Church and that such jurisdiction ends 10 years after the victim turns 18 years old."
"All cases were to go through Ratzingerâs desk, and could be then be sent to âprivate tribunalsâ where the âfunctions of judge, promoter of justice, notary and legal representative [could] validly be performed for these cases only by priests"
"the Bishop writes to the victims of abuse âyou have suffered grievously and I am truly sorryâ. He rightly goes on... âmany of you found that, when you were courageous enough to speak of what happened to you, no one would listenâ.
That âno oneâ who didnât listen is the very same author of those words. The sliminess of his language is only surpassed by his actions."
http://www.youngfreethought.com/2010/03/ratzinger-failed-letter-of-apology.html
Quote from stu:
Your Catholic priests raped children, your Catholic Church covered it up, You are a Catholic.
Are you suggesting no one should have the zeal to point that out.
Face it, you're a lot nearer to Catholic pedophilia than I am to being a zealot.
Perhaps you should seriously get to terms with the fact youâre a member of a ring, complicit in the sexual abuse of children.
more misdirection.
I agree with you Stu too many priests in the Catholic church were allowed to rape children.
Now why are you such a zealout when it comes to other christians?
Your own Catholic Church has been caught practicing and then covering up child abuse atrocities on a global scale and you think I should be accusing other Christians !!?Quote from jem:
more misdirection.
I agree with you Stu too many priests in the Catholic church were allowed to rape children.
Now why are you such a zealout when it comes to other christians?
To compound this disgrace, you and your Catholic brethren utter in the face of these monstrous offences by their Church, condescending remarks on how other religious people molest children too.
Thing is Jem, there is no real, true, open remorse here. You don't know what it means. Like them, and religiously motivated, youâre too busy trying to accuse other people when your own Church carried out the crimes. Unconditional condemnation of the Church and its complicity in these atrocities is not forthcoming. Making you complicit, to a lesser degree, but no lesser disgusting crimes to be complicit to.. And you have your own children !!?? Good grief!
So who the hell in their right mind would ever trust any Catholic church group or religious organization with their child ever again after what they have done. To compound all that evilness, ignorant and vile attempts are now made by many Catholic and other religious apologists to continue the deceit by trying to lay blame away from themselves. Just as any sleazy politicians would.
Any other organization would be either closed down or openly and thoroughly exposed to formal legal enquiry. Religion is no excuse for that not happening. All you can manage apparently is to feel Catholics are being persequted because they have been found out.
It's only to be hoped secular law will now at last be brought down hard on the whole shebang.
Quote from stu:
Your own Catholic Church has been caught practicing and then covering up child abuse atrocities on a global scale and you think I should be accusing other Christians !!?
To compound this disgrace, you and your Catholic brethren utter in the face of these monstrous offences by their Church, condescending remarks on how other religious people molest children too.
Thing is Jem, there is no real, true, open remorse here. You don't know what it means. Like them, and religiously motivated, youâre too busy trying to accuse other people when your own Church carried out the crimes. Unconditional condemnation of the Church and its complicity in these atrocities is not forthcoming. Making you complicit, to a lesser degree, but no lesser disgusting crimes to be complicit to.. And you have your own children !!?? Good grief!
So who the hell in their right mind would ever trust any Catholic church group or religious organization with their child ever again after what they have done. To compound all that evilness, ignorant and vile attempts are now made by many Catholic and other religious apologists to continue the deceit by trying to lay blame away from themselves. Just as any sleazy politicians would.
Any other organization would be either closed down or openly and thoroughly exposed to formal legal enquiry. Religion is no excuse for that not happening. All you can manage apparently is to feel Catholics are being persequted because they have been found out.
It's only to be hoped secular law will now at last be brought down hard on the whole shebang.
You brainless immoral twit. I have in no way directed condescending remarks to or about anyone on this subject... other than you being the typical zealous loser your always are.
you haven't ?....Quote from jem:
You brainless immoral twit. I have in no way directed condescending remarks to or about anyone on this subject...
oh , so you have.Quote from jem:
other than you being the typical zealous loser your always are.
That type of logical thinking must be the reason you are "no longer a lawyer", but are a proficient Catholic.
You think me a zealot..then start another thread.
Ask yourself first , why are you trying to project your own misdirection , accusing me of being a zealot, instead of simply condemning unreservedly the vile inhumanity which has been perpetrated on children within the everyday business of the Catholic Church.
Why not explain , and more honestly, how you can still remain a member of a club, whose leading administrative and controlling fellow members, committed, and with full knowledge and deliberation, hid thousands of their worldwide pedophile crimes from the top down.
These detestable offences reflect on you because of the choice you make as to the body you associate with.
And wtf is this? ......."too many priests....were allowed to rape children" Whatâs that supposed to mean?
A few priests and the Church would have had justification for covering it up and perpetuating the crime!?
Your whole approach here seems to need admit only as much as you think you have to, and then turn some unwarranted blame onto others, hoping a distraction may dilute how much your religious Church guild has defiled all trust and decency.
It attests in my view, to the dangerous general Catholic and overall religious mindset which poisons common standards of basic decency. You demonstrate that very well right here.
The Church sets itself up as righteous, it's members become self-righteous, as if it would then be unreasonable to properly , thoroughly and decisively examine and remedy their own or their Churchâs wrongdoing in the real world.
Mere mawkish repentance to an imaginary God is sufficient restitution for inflicting a most horrific crime. Then some lip service if necessary, when forced , to the society they so grievously offend.
Too religious to fail.
Don't bet on it.