Poll- Who is worst U.S. President ever?

Who is worst U.S. President ever?


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1) You mean, like the Panic of 1907, the one that gave birth to central banking?

2) Nobody on Planet Earth wants to (merely) let the Laissez Fairey take care of economic crises. That philosophy has no traction.
1) well see, you're proving yourself wrong. The feds did NOT involve themselves in bs job creation etc prior to the great depression and the economy not only recovered, but expanded. And there was a national bank from almost the beginning, and another after, some saw the issues with them and shut them down. there were several bank runs/crashes in the 1800's as well. it is a cycle of expansion and contraction. The fed govt always had some some moves they could make after a crash but they stayed withing the confines of the Constitution.. FDR did not, W did not, obama did not.

Not only that ricter, but programs like SS, setting min wage laws, and adding taxes are in no way economically beneficial, so they didn't contribute to the recovery after the great depression, they were power grabs during a time when the pop was vulnerable.. just like the bailout, stimulus, and obamacare after our most recent crash.

2) total bullshit, there was a vocal crowd AGAINST the proposed govt intervention in '08 (as someone else pointed out). And I'm sure there was back in the 1930s as well. Also, we aren't citizens of Planet Earth, we are citizens of the US and it really doesn't matter what the rest of the world does or believes.
 
1) well see, you're proving yourself wrong. The feds did NOT involve themselves in bs job creation etc prior to the great depression and the economy not only recovered, but expanded. And there was a national bank from almost the beginning, and another after, some saw the issues with them and shut them down. there were several bank runs/crashes in the 1800's as well. it is a cycle of expansion and contraction. The fed govt always had some some moves they could make after a crash but they stayed withing the confines of the Constitution.. FDR did not, W did not, obama did not.
Fair enough. Though as I recall reading even the plutocrats of those days were getting tired of the extreme volatility (not that we're much better off it seems).

Not only that ricter, but programs like SS, setting min wage laws, and adding taxes are in no way economically beneficial, so they didn't contribute to the recovery after the great depression, they were power grabs during a time when the pop was vulnerable.. just like the bailout, stimulus, and obamacare after our most recent crash.
I simply disagree, they are beneficial. Of course they can be taken to an extreme (not there yet).

2) total bullshit, there was a vocal crowd AGAINST the proposed govt intervention in '08 (as someone else pointed out). And I'm sure there was back in the 1930s as well. Also, we aren't citizens of Planet Earth, we are citizens of the US and it really doesn't matter what the rest of the world does or believes.
My point about the world following suit is simply that we're not the only ones to discover the utility of central banking. If it weren't expedient it would be a lot less widespread.
 
Putin retreats! Obama wins again!

obama-penny.jpg


Republican minds are going crazy with the greatest president of the last 100 years. He'll replace Lincoln on the penny.
 
Putin retreats! Obama wins again!

obama-penny.jpg


Republican minds are going crazy with the greatest president of the last 100 years. He'll replace Lincoln on the penny.

Now I'm certain of it. You're a paid democratic shill whose only purpose is to troll message boards and spew propaganda and stupidity.
 
Putin retreats! Obama wins again!

obama-penny.jpg


Republican minds are going crazy with the greatest president of the last 100 years. He'll replace Lincoln on the penny.

Well he's worth about a penny. You do realize that the U.S. plans to discontinue the penny at some point.
 
1) Fair enough. Though as I recall reading even the plutocrats of those days were getting tired of the extreme volatility (not that we're much better off it seems).

Not only that ricter, but programs like SS, setting min wage laws, and adding taxes are in no way economically beneficial, so they didn't contribute to the recovery after the great depression, they were power grabs during a time when the pop was vulnerable.. just like the bailout, stimulus, and obamacare after our most recent crash.
2) I simply disagree, they are beneficial. Of course they can be taken to an extreme (not there yet).


3) My point about the world following suit is simply that we're not the only ones to discover the utility of central banking. If it weren't expedient it would be a lot less widespread.
1) since i blamed everything on FDR, i just want to clarify, he wasn't the first guy to overstep his authority. I just skimmed through some of the crashes on wikipedia (lol) and there was another admin that started with railroad subsidies, which later led to it's own recession. Prior to this there were politicians who wanted infrastructure built and President Monroe agreed with them, but said he wouldn't allow it without Constitutional amendments.. imagine that. Also, alexander hamilton i believe started or instigated the first national bank even though many of the other founders argued that the fed govt had no authority to do so.

2) can you explain to me how any of those things help an economy recover or expand?

3) it makes crashes more dangerous because what happens if the central bank can't provide the liquidity necessary after a crash? I think a system without a lender of last resort is better, when a bank fucks up, it fails. Another will fill the vacuum. either way the fed govt had/has no right to bail out the banks, or auto manufacturers, or insurance companies, or mortgage lenders.
 
you leftists are such idiots and will misinterpret anything. to make sure idiots like you and the left would not misinterpret this....

putin fired an icbm -

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-test-f...90--sector.html;_ylt=AwrBJR9IKhZTKSMAfjrQtDMD


MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said it had successfully test-fired an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) on Tuesday, with tensions high over its seizure of control in the Crimea and its threat to send more forces to its neighbor Ukraine.

and flies his planes near Turkey...

http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-scramb...-133829290.html;_ylt=AwrTWf0NAxZTS34AFXrQtDMD



ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The Turkish Air Force scrambled eight F-16 fighter jets after a Russian surveillance plane flew parallel along its Black Sea coast, the military said on Tuesday, amid increased tensions between Russia and the West over Ukraine.




Putin retreats! Obama wins again!

obama-penny.jpg


Republican minds are going crazy with the greatest president of the last 100 years. He'll replace Lincoln on the penny.
 
you leftists are such idiots and will misinterpret anything. to make sure idiots like you and the left would not misinterpret this....

putin fired an icbm -

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-test-f...90--sector.html;_ylt=AwrBJR9IKhZTKSMAfjrQtDMD


MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said it had successfully test-fired an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) on Tuesday, with tensions high over its seizure of control in the Crimea and its threat to send more forces to its neighbor Ukraine.

and flies his planes near Turkey...

http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-scramb...-133829290.html;_ylt=AwrTWf0NAxZTS34AFXrQtDMD



ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The Turkish Air Force scrambled eight F-16 fighter jets after a Russian surveillance plane flew parallel along its Black Sea coast, the military said on Tuesday, amid increased tensions between Russia and the West over Ukraine.

So if it makes Obama look bad, you're willing to cheer for Putin, the russkies, and the Iranians?
 
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