POLL: Who is Jesus to You?
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Yes, maybe two out of ten thousand are at anytime intent on learning what I have to teach.
The road is indeed narrow.
But my patience is infinite.
And all who thought they were something other than the Son,
eventually find the narrow road.
The narrow road is the easy road.
The load is light.
No heavy burden is placed on your shoulders.
Time is on your side.
Time will not end without you.
And you will bring time to an end by your decisions.
Alas, time has ended, for it lasted but a moment.
Heaven merely awaits your decision to return to it in your awareness.
The Son is saved, and you along with him.
He was not saved without you, nor you without him.
All has passed away, while my words have stood for all time.
Who's words?
The Son of God, who salvaged my mind, and his with it.
Therefore salvation is now.
Forget about the past.
Release the future.
Cease doing.
Stop resisting.
Let it come.
Allow it.
Be.
I do not ask you to follow me to death.
I ask you follow me to life. Death is not prerequisite.
Death is for the concept of self.
This is the self that dies.
Lay this self down in your awareness by letting it go.
Your true Self will take it's place. And you will live.
Who is this true Self?
Indeed, it is the Son of God.
Suffering is not ever integral to this agenda.
I teach the way away from suffering...always.
Any ideas about a need to suffer are not of me.
The path of joy is indeed narrow.
Jesus
Uh, yes.
You see, this is the entire conflict illustrated here.
You, and millions of believers,
will swear on a stack of Bibles the world is true.
And all the "evidence" says it's real.
All it's witnesses are in your favor.
And it makes truth-tellers look like raving lunatics.
And turns it's denizens into "animals" driven mad by guilt.
Well, duh.
How is this not a conflict?
That's the way the world turns.
It locks the truth out,
and stacks the jury.
It calls only those witnesses that will testify in its favor.
The world is what you want.
It represents an ancient wish in a very powerful mind which I symbolically call "you" .
And from what you want, God cannot save you.
What you want will bring forth its own evidence, its own witnesses.
What you see is what you believe, literally.
But what you believe makes you blind.
The world is a savage fantasy in a very powerful mind.
It appears only in a darkened mind.
Eyeballs literally see nothing but what is imagined.
And images are given belief and power to appear real.
Even so, I deny any of it has any validity whatsoever.
Birth, death...it is all the same. None of it is true.
Guilt gives it all the solidity it will ever have.
Anyone willing to absolve it of guilt may gradually wash it away.
What seemed solid before is seen as fragile as a sandcastle.
Walls that looked impenitrable give way easily to truth.
Yes, this is an escape.
Why would you not want to escape what the world represents?
The world represents a wish to kill the Son of God, and his Father with him.
This is utterly impossible, so the world is an impossibility.
It does not exist.
What wishes for it's existence is not really "you".
What wishes to kill the Son of God is not really "you".
It is an intruder in your mind, given welcome since before time.
YOU are the Son of God.
But so long as the intruder seeks to kill him,
you will deny it many times in many ways...
...IF you allow fear to rule your mind.
The Son cannot be killed or hurt in any way.
It is a fantasy to think otherwise.
Jesus
Speaking of mattresses...
After we got all 66 sacred books into most of the hotel rooms,
it turned out that people were only interested in reading the "Song of Solomon".
Eventually we were busted on possession with intent to distribute marital aids to rooms within Jericho county without a Certificate of Concubancy.
Jesus
This is Paul's view.
To make a complete salad you toss in one sentence from Jeremiah,
and another from an unknown author from several thousand years ago.
Paul was a murderer of my teachers.
Paul murdered under the influence of the old scriptures.
Paul murdered while he was a student of authors like Jeremiah and whomever wrote Genesis.
Paul never stopped using the old scriptures in an overtly zealous way.
Paul never stopped cursing those who did not agree with his idea of salvation.
Paul could not get along with his first traveling partner, Barnabas.
Paul turned the gospel into a competition, some kind of marathon race.
Paul never quotes me.
Paul never quotes an apostle.
Paul never quotes Stephen whose stoning he watched and approved of.
Paul often quotes arcane old scriptures.
Paul tried to change the world, rather than how he looked at the world.
Paul cursed in the name of God.
Paul suppressed female teachers.
Paul was a student of Gamaliel, a Pharisee.
You do not know who taught Paul "the Way".
Whoever taught Paul, it was not an apostle, and it was not me.
Paul's view is a popular view made "official" by people you've never met,
who's names you know not, or by what means they hold an official capacity.
Paul's views were enforced by Imperial decree.
Opposition to Paul's views were censured and suppressed and dissenters were threatened with corporeal punishment through Imperial edict.
Paul died.
Jeremiah died. He is dead. Before he died he threatened the populace. Jeremiah cursed in the name of God. Was Jeremiah an apostle?
What do you know about the author of Genesis except that he is dead?
What do you really know about what I taught, and how do you know it?
Jesus
Misquoted/misunderstood jewish rabbi is coming home strong
I didn't say fantasy is bad. As long as you see it for what it is. The world is a very depressing place. We are depressed ourselves. We need promises. Something that gives us hope. I see much of your philosophy is Platonic. You make your own reality. If you change your perceptive organs, you will change your reality. I'm afraid it is not that simple. But we all need comfort. There is another way, which examines how we raise children. How we ruin them.
Quote from I am...:
This is Paul's view.
I suspect that your words as Jesus would generally be rejected by about 99.99999999% of the population, if they had to be honest...
I think the onus is on someone hiding behind an internet and claiming to be Jesus
If you wish to pass muster, please tell me the 3 words written on my board.
Otherwise, you remain certifiable...
This is Paul's view.
I suspect that your words as Jesus would generally be rejected by about 99.99999999% of the population, if they had to be honest...
I think the onus is on someone hiding behind an internet and claiming to be Jesus
If you wish to pass muster, please tell me the 3 words written on my board.
Otherwise, you remain certifiable...