POLL: Who is Jesus to You?

POLL: Who is Jesus to You?

  • He is a misquoted/misunderstood jewish rabbi

    Votes: 35 23.8%
  • He could be the promised messiah, but I don't believe he was God

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • He is God/Creator and His sovereign grace is the singular means to my salvation

    Votes: 45 30.6%
  • He was a leader with a cause, like Ralph Nader or Jesse Jackson

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • He was possibly deranged, like Charles Manson or Jim Jones

    Votes: 7 4.8%
  • He was an influential teacher, similar to Gandhi

    Votes: 16 10.9%
  • He is a prophet of God, similar to Ezekiel or Mohammad

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • Following his example & doing good works is the singular means to my salvation

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • He probably never existed

    Votes: 12 8.2%
  • Something else

    Votes: 15 10.2%

  • Total voters
    147
Quote from rcanfiel:



Great. Then you won't mind providing proof that he is ordinary, instead of God. And when I say proof, I don't mean your opinions.

Ahhh but the onus of proof lies with the one making the extraordinary claim.. I have 7 billion examples of ordinary humans alive today

Where is your man/god? :p
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Quote from sosexy

Rcanfiel strikes me as the typical insecure Christian trying to convince himself through numbers. However just as in trading the majority is almost always wrong and especially so in this case.


Sosexy strikes me as the typical frustrated person who is probably using an alias, and who knows nothing about where he came from or where he is going, knows nothing about the eternal or infinite, but likes to think therefore his blindness makes him an expert on things he knows nothing about.

To believe Jesus was anything but an ordinary man is wide eyed naivety and childlike stubbornness

Great. Then you won't mind providing proof that he is ordinary, instead of God. And when I say proof, I don't mean your opinions.

This is an example of the logical fallacy appeal to ignorance.

Considering the source...par for the course.
 
Quote from smilingsynic:

This is an example of the logical fallacy appeal to ignorance.

Considering the source...par for the course.
I had to point out his little fairy tale did not stand up to the rigours of cross referencing or any other scientific method

I shouldn't have to.. most children stop believing in Santa around the age of 10
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Quote from sosexy

Rcanfiel strikes me as the typical insecure Christian trying to convince himself through numbers. However just as in trading the majority is almost always wrong and especially so in this case.


Sosexy strikes me as the typical frustrated person who is probably using an alias, and who knows nothing about where he came from or where he is going, knows nothing about the eternal or infinite, but likes to think therefore his blindness makes him an expert on things he knows nothing about.

To believe Jesus was anything but an ordinary man is wide eyed naivety and childlike stubbornness

Great. Then you won't mind providing proof that he is ordinary, instead of God. And when I say proof, I don't mean your opinions.
Where does sosexy come from?

What proves Jesus is God?
 
Quote from tradesrmade:

Shh.. the missionaries are building a rocket

in due time, i'm sure they'll find the right passage in bible that 'splains it all, in the usual vague metaphoric gibberish :D
 
Quote from loik:

Where does sosexy come from?

What proves Jesus is God?



What proves it?

"And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"
Romans 1:4

How do we know he was raised from the dead?

Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated:

"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).
 
Quote from ilikefox es:

What proves it?

"And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"
Romans 1:4

How do we know he was raised from the dead?

Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated:

"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).
is that convincing?
 
He was on equal footing with Buddha, Mohammed and others like Abraham etc. He was no God of course but that is a whole different subject. In my mind, God would never take a form. So the whole son, father thing is a methaphor. We all have the potential of that slice of divine and can become like Jesus or the other prophets if we correct our false thinking. In fact this is our birthright!
Quote from rcanfiel:

Since he is probably the most influential and/or followed man in history, i am curious about your opinion of who Jesus is - good, bad or indifferent .
 
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