Poll: Which Us Tax System Do You Favor ?

Which US Tax System Do You Favor ?

  • The Obama/Pelosi Increases In Taxes Plan

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • A Sole 15% Consumption Tax Only (No other taxes)

    Votes: 61 96.8%

  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
Quote from libertad:

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Nope...


Just a straight 15% tax....that´s it....

No income tax....

No paper work...

Nothing....

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You use it.....you pay it....


Everyone pays something....

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More than 47% and climbing pay no income tax today.....



Accounting takes on a new role....

+10

Everybody is encouraged to read the book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...104-7075036-4755158?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

And get more information from http://www.fairtax.org
 
However I did get stung by the 1986 Tax Reform Act....

This wiped out lots of folks....most of whom were not political....

The tools were there....and they used them....

The speed limit was changed in the middle of the race in 86....

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This is why the system deserves a giant reset button....

To a visible....hard fast reliable form of asset valuation....which a 10/5 C tax only environment WOULD produce....

No more "hush puppies" for the barkers....

And a fair competitive pricing format for all production....


I don't know about you but getting wiped out for SOMEBODY ELSE'S REASONS IS NOT A FAIR GAME....
 
Quote from libertad:

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Nope....not fair...

Here it is....

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Three people walk into a drug store.....

Buy $1.00 Toothpaste

One pays 0% tax....pays $1.00

One pays 20% tax....pays $1.20

One pays 35% tax....pays $1.35


Now apply this to much more costly items....

Current system fair...?????

Nope

The US to some degree already has a
hidden indirect consumption tax....

Never ????

Black US president
Jets
Cars
Rockets
Electric cars
Worldwide direct access exchange


Never say never......

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10000% Correct about the spending issue....

Govt. must downsize commensurate with the economy....

Here in Texas we all pay the same sales tax. :cool:
I understand what you saying I just disagree. I see nothing wrong with those making more paying more.
What you are suggesting is a regressive tax which is unfair. Again my opinion.
It all doesn't matter anyway, as long as spending is like it is.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Here in Texas we all pay the same sales tax. :cool:
I understand what you saying I just disagree. I see nothing wrong with those making more paying more.
What you are suggesting is a regressive tax which is unfair. Again my opinion.
It all doesn't matter anyway, as long as spending is like it is.

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Nope....

Know where you are coming from....

This time ...it is different....

As mentioned above.....

When a 10/5 Ctax is implemented vs the current and upcoming takes....

It simply means that the US will be able to be far more competitive in overall pricing....

Taxes are just another cost of production....the bigger the take....the more expensive the price....the less competitive the seller.....

Another point of clarification are valuations.....when the take grows from a decreasing revenue....valuations falter....and vice versa....

It does not matter what you or I think is fair.....

It does play a grand role in both prices , and the ability to compete.....

The US has made a lot of legal promises that it cannot keep....

Thus one cannot lose what one does not have....

Best to press the reset button .....and rebuild....

And build it better this time around....

That's it....


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By the way 47% and growing do not pay any income tax.....

What is to going stop it from being 87% ?
 
Quote from libertad:

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Nope....the method of taxing is
either A or B....."or investing"....


Adopt the system ....chips fall where they may....


Next stop ?


Expenditures only via localized state mandate....


No more lobbyists....


Project management voted locally via
internet by category....

And watched locally....


Much tighter system....

Nice ideas, but lobbying is protected by the Constitution. Look it up. We don't want to let the statists destroy any more of that document now do we? As much as we all hate lobbying, there are valid cases of it and curbing it by law will hurt the essence of freedom of speech in this country.

A more effective measure would be Congressional term limits.
 
Quote from libertad:

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Nope....not fair...

Here it is....

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Three people walk into a drug store.....

Buy $1.00 Toothpaste

One pays 0% tax....pays $1.00

One pays 20% tax....pays $1.20

One pays 35% tax....pays $1.35


Now apply this to much more costly items....

Current system fair...?????

Nope

The US to some degree already has a
hidden indirect consumption tax....

Never ????

Black US president
Jets
Cars
Rockets
Electric cars
Worldwide direct access exchange


Never say never......

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10000% Correct about the spending issue....

Govt. must downsize commensurate with the economy....

Nice but when has government ever reduced its size?
 
Quote from libertad:

And here is the really big reason....


What portion of all product prices is due to the tax take ?

What portion of all product prices is due to legal largess...?

Now is it not obvious that when taxes increase ....that product prices have to be higher ?

Next item....

The US must be competitive head on with prices with BRIC.

The right tax structure is most definitely the road to success for the USA.....

Legal largess must also be reduced.

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So the US has a choice to make.

And this is a yes/no question.....


Dear USA.....do you want to establish more advantages versus your peers....or do you want to grow up just like the major high tax Euros....


The Swiss have their act together.

The Swiss do fine on a much lower tax structure and has one of the highest quality of life rankings in the world.


So YES THE US CAN........

If it wants to.....

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I'm for reducing taxes and spending. But remember the Swiss don't police and defend the world, now or for the past 100+ years. So the comparison is flawed. Military expenditures are one of the few constitutionally justified actions of Congress, there is so much glut and waste and corruption in the rest of our spending. Let states be states. Or why even bother, why not just live under one federal government?

Whatever happened to a constitutional and democratic republic?
 
Quote from PlusMinus:

I'm for reducing taxes and spending. But remember the Swiss don't police and defend the world, now or for the past 100+ years. So the comparison is flawed. Military expenditures are one of the few constitutionally justified actions of Congress, there is so much glut and waste and corruption in the rest of our spending. Let states be states. Or why even bother, why not just live under one federal government?

Whatever happened to a constitutional and democratic republic?


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Both comments ......good points....

Both of which contains some of the right solutions....

You have largely answered your own questions....
 
Quote from PlusMinus:

Nice ideas, but lobbying is protected by the Constitution. Look it up. We don't want to let the statists destroy any more of that document now do we? As much as we all hate lobbying, there are valid cases of it and curbing it by law will hurt the essence of freedom of speech in this country.

A more effective measure would be Congressional term limits.

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Washington lobbyists...eliminated


What would not be eliminated would be state by state.....states could lobby .....

Much tighter/more visible system by state not fed mandate....

Internet local would also increase visibility....and local mandates....


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Advertising budgets no longer a factor....

Mostly internet based....and local....
 
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