POLL: What is your religious faith?

POLL: Which best describes your religious faith?

  • Buddhist

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • Catholic Christian

    Votes: 10 14.5%
  • Muslim

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Hindu

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Atheist / Secular / Agnostic

    Votes: 29 42.0%
  • Orthodox Christian

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Something Else

    Votes: 7 10.1%
  • Jewish

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • Biblical/Evangelic Christian

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • Protestant Christian

    Votes: 7 10.1%

  • Total voters
    69
Quote from Supermax:

you are soo stupid it's laughable :p

LOL

"You'd like to think that wouldn't you" (from one of my favorite movies)

JB

PS: at least the wheels of *my* car arrive with the rest of it. :-)
 
Quote from Turok:

LOL

"You'd like to think that wouldn't you" (from one of my favorite movies)

JB

PS: at least the wheels of *my* car arrive with the rest of it. :-)

PS the wheels of *your* car aren't part of your car?

what an idiot :p
 
Quote from I am...:

Indeed, any goal in which the betterment of the body is the objective brings about it's death.

If people spent as much effort returning to an awareness of strength of mind, the body would be taken care of because it is an outpicturing of mind. In other words, the body shows you what is foremost on your mind.

This is hidden because the mind has been split into various levels of awareness. As a rule of thumb, what has been called the "conscious" mind is not aware of much at all.

So the body tells you what is foremost at deeper levels of a fragmented mind. By observing it, you can flesh out what is hidden from your sight.

At deep levels, the mind that makes the body intends to kill it.

So the mind is sick. And unless time is used to heal it, it is in the process of killing the body that seeks it's own betterment.

Jesus

Interesting post. Sort of a blend of Zen and Nietzsche. Not bad. Not bad at all.

Hans
 
Quote from bluud:

I never wanted to be in the same world as say Joe, but for some fucking reason he gave himself the right to try and degrade me with his words, it is not him trying to degrade me that bothers me most, it is him being in the same world as me that gives me every right to make him and so everyone else a victim, a victim of their own actions before it's occurrence. In basic words, everyone is guilty until proven innocent, since we can not take the risk of becoming a victim of an unwanted worthless human by assuming humans as innocent beings, we believe that they are guilty, guilty of a crime that only can be punished by hell. This hell they will see in this world before they die, and as they die. As a side note he added, if ever we are found a victim of one of these pathetic entities, we take pride in the fact that we have punished a good number of them before falling a victim, if this pattern is understood, it will eventually result in either the extinction of mankind or enlightenment which ever they deserve most.

Very eloquent and to the point, I admit.

Your reasoning leads from the slight probability that you will fall victim to the assumption that everyone is a possible culprit and possibly out to get you. This is flawed reasoning.

The fact that you may be harmed by someone is often accidental, not even on purpose. It just happens, like an ant getting trampled. Nobody is out to get you.

My question from you is, how have you come to protect yourself from the everyday possible terrors around you? I ask, because I believe as an entity, a good defence system is what I need, and if ones philosophy or system of thought can not provide me with a good defence system, it sucks as much as it's creators do.

The protection is 'not being scared'. Fear is at the basis of nearly all human disturbances and I think your problem is a good example.

You sound like a very rational person: try to reason how great the chance is you will get trampled, and how great the chance that that happened on purpose. Is it reasonable to view everyone as a potential enemy just because maybe someday someone will accidentaly step on your toe?

Then try to imagine what the worst is that could happen if and when you get trampled. You'll survive and be stronger.

Face your fear, name it and dismiss it, it really works.

As for boredom, I know what you mean. It could be sign of psych disease. If it is what I think there is not much remedy but there are ways to make life easier. Did you have it examined?

Ursa..
 
Quote from bluud:

I do understand what you are saying, and I have nothing against your words, according to statistics there is a possibility that you might be right, but what I would like to know most is what you have obtained as a result of your knowledge?

let's call him Lawrence. Lawrence once said; by being in this world, there is a probability that I might be a victim, a victim of anything not pleasant, no matter how small that probability is, even if I have no problems with being a victim, I am disgusted by the fact that I can be a victim of people that I never asked to be around with. Take for instance verbal abuse, I never wanted to be in the same world as say Joe, but for some fucking reason he gave himself the right to try and degrade me with his words, it is not him trying to degrade me that bothers me most, it is him being in the same world as me that gives me every right to make him and so everyone else a victim, a victim of their own actions before it's occurrence. In basic words, everyone is guilty until proven innocent, since we can not take the risk of becoming a victim of an unwanted worthless human by assuming humans as innocent beings, we believe that they are guilty, guilty of a crime that only can be punished by hell. This hell they will see in this world before they die, and as they die. As a side note he added, if ever we are found a victim of one of these pathetic entities, we take pride in the fact that we have punished a good number of them before falling a victim, if this pattern is understood, it will eventually result in either the extinction of mankind or enlightenment which ever they deserve most.

My question from you is, how have you come to protect yourself from the everyday possible terrors around you? I ask, because I believe as an entity, a good defense system is what I need, and if ones philosophy or system of thought can not provide me with a good defense system, it sucks as much as it's creators do.

I will get more into this. But for now, the short answer is:

The only defense that cannot be turned against you is a perception of universal, all-inclusive innocence that simultaneously includes yourself and everyone you think of as "other".

Nothing and no one can be left out of this perception in order for the defense to be "bullet proof".

The metaphysics that I am explaining detail the reason you can view this way, and be completely backed up by reality.

It's actually the truth. Now all one need do is satisfy the ego's habitual resistance to truth. To do this you apply reason...a form of logic that the ego cannot withstand, since it has no real defense against reasonableness.

In other words, ONENESS trumps divisiveness all day long whenever reason is allowed to lead to truth...or whenever truth is not put on ignore.

The ego is about "divide and conquer". A divided world "proves" that there are victims. It teaches you this constantly. But truth teaches consistently, to those who will stop listen. There are no "holes" in reason's arguments in favor of truth. Reason is "seamless".

This is the ego's world. The entire universe of time and space is a defense against the truth. Ingenious, yes. Real, no.

Jesus
 
GOD, this thread makes me feel so pious.. sooo guilty

for give me father for i have sinned.

my confession:

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

He's my brother

He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
 
This would be the Ztroll's Longshot imitation.

LOL

JB


Quote from Supermax:

GOD, this thread makes me feel so pious.. sooo guilty

for give me father for i have sinned.

my confession:

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

He's my brother

He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
 
Quote from Supermax:

GOD, this thread makes me feel so pious.. sooo guilty

for give me father for i have sinned.

my confession:

The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where
Who knows when
But I'm strong
Strong enough to carry him
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

So on we go
His welfare is of my concern
No burden is he to bear
We'll get there
For I know
He would not encumber me
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

If I'm laden at all
I'm laden with sadness
That everyone's heart
Isn't filled with the gladness
Of love for one another

It's a long, long road
From which there is no return
While we're on the way to there
Why not share
And the load
Doesn't weigh me down at all
He ain't heavy, he's my brother

He's my brother

He ain't heavy, he's my brother...

Apparently you don't know either God or Neil Diamond.
 
Quote from Supermax:

stu turns rcan't into an ostrich! .. now that's divine power LOL

when the cracks start to form in their worldview.. when they begin to doubt ..they bury their heads in righteous indignation

and another one bites the dust..

high fives stu!

ps see you in hell :D

If you think his commentary had any traction, then you are to be pitied. When a blind rooster keeps crowing at all hours of the night because it has no idea when dawn occurs, you shut the window or turn it into stew. I chose to shut the window.

My worldview is unchanged and I am doubtfree. If you say anything of value or interesting (which seems doubtful), I will be happy to respond. This post of yours was little beyond 4th grade understanding.
 
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