POLL: What is the World's Most Evil Religion?

"Can living according to the commonly accepted scientific principles improve your quality of life?

Has science made advances to improve your quality of life?"


Well, seeing as I'm typing on the internet, and not afraid of polio, have no annoying little kids thanx to birth control, able to watch movies on DVD on my plasma flat screen home theater, got rich trading tech stocks back in the bubble days instead of milking cows and plowing fields or coal mining... yeah, I'd say science might have improved my quality of life just a bit.
 
Quote from axeman:

Notice you used the word THOERY.
Of course science rotates through theories as more
things are studied more carefully.
Thats part of the scientific method.

But you are comparing apples and oranges.

Theists typically propose that the bible is FACT, not theory.

How often does science discard FACT for new fact?

It has happened...but its EXTREMELY rare.


Dont pretend that the bible is anywhere NEAR on the same
level as scientific fact, or even theory, or even hypothesis.

It is a story, written by a bunch of cult wackos as far as I can tell.

What data has been collected on the bible to support the
supernatural things that have occured in it?

Has anyone seen someone come back from the dead?
Anyone seen water turn to wine?
Anyone seen god send wild animals to eat infants?

Give me a break. Totally different worlds here, and completely
different standards for measuring truth.

"Can living the principles taught in the bible improve your quality of life?"

Maybe. Maybe not. It didnt improve the life of the witches
that were burned at the stake. It didnt improve mine.
It DOES improve others. But does this mean its TRUE??
Of course not.

Has science improved your life? Of course it has.
If your over the age of 30, more than likely, its because
of the science of medicine that has kept you alive for so long.
People used to die in their teens or twenties from disease
back in the dark ages when the church ruled.

Oooops.... I guess prayer doesnt work very well does it? :D
Verified again by the latest studies. Ooops again.


peace

axeman
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Before direct experience, everything is a theory. Love, sex, marriage, having children, financial success, disease, trading, music, art, etc. all can be understood on a theoretical level before direct experience, but they remain theory until direct experience.

If you want to call the purely intellectual ideas and concepts prior to the practice of faith in God a theory, fine by me.

The proof of the theory of God comes through the practice of faith, a practice that you failed to complete properly.

Had you been scientific with the practice of faith, and made a decision to accept faith in God over your doubting intellect you would have perhaps reached the conclusion and experiences that the majority who practice faith properly do.

You are a failed theist on a mission to prove that your failure was not your own, but the failure of someone else.
 
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"Can living according to the commonly accepted scientific principles improve your quality of life?

Has science made advances to improve your quality of life?"


Well, seeing as I'm typing on the internet, and not afraid of polio, have no annoying little kids thanx to birth control, able to watch movies on DVD on my plasma flat screen home theater, got rich trading tech stocks back in the bubble days instead of milking cows and plowing fields or coal mining... yeah, I'd say science might have improved my quality of life just a bit.
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Are the increases in mental illness, the use of prescription drugs to combat depression, etc., the level of unhealthy obesity in America etc. due to science....or religion?

We have improved the quality of material life, but what has science done to improve the quality of man's inner spiritual life?
 
Clearly Tripack, you havent the FAINTEST clue where
the burden of proof lies do you?

People dont have to prove negatives.
I am no more required to prove that god does NOT exist
then you are required to prove that I am NOT god.

Can you prove ZEUS does NOT exist?
Can you prove that I am NOT god?

No you cant.
Which is why the question is so silly.
It shifts the burden of proof to the wrong person.


Asking someone to prove something DOESNT exist
is something only very inexperienced debators try to pull.

Sorry...doesnt work. If you assert gods existence then YOU
must prove he exists. No one has to prove that he doesnt.
Pretty basic stuff.


peace

axeman



Quote from TriPack:




It is totally mindblowing.

Its only not mindblowing if you first ASSUME that God does not exist, and therein lies the problem.

You have never proved that God does not exist.
You have never proved that morality does not stem from God either.
You have never proved God is not perfect.

These are all baseless assumptions.

Would it be silly to judge ZEUS to you?
I thought so :D

peace

TriPack
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Quote from axeman:


"Can living the principles taught in the bible improve your quality of life?"

Maybe. Maybe not. It didnt improve the life of the witches
that were burned at the stake. It didnt improve mine.
It DOES improve others. But does this mean its TRUE??
Of course not.
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Exactly which biblical principles did you live that didn't improve your life or in other words made your life worse?

If a book teaches principles then by living those principles, you should be able to determine for yourself whether that book is good or bad by evaluating your life before you started living those principles, and then after you started living those principles.
 
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Are the increases in mental illness, the use of prescription drugs to combat depression, etc., the level of unhealthy obesity in America etc. due to science....or religion?

We have improved the quality of material life, but what has science done to improve the quality of man's inner spiritual life?
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science has enabled man to improve the quality of his inner spiritual life by providing man THE TIME to work on his spiritual side. because of science and progress, the common man, no longer has to stress out and fight for food ( an example ). almost everyone now has access to spiritual information, instead of just the scribes and elites as in the past due to science. science gives us FREE TIME to study spiritual pursuits that were once only the domain of the elite. science allow us to be educated so that we can CHOOSE the spiritual path instead of being forced fed dogma. science enables man to feed his soul instead of being obsessed with feeding his body.

best,

surfer:)
 
Ahhh... I see 777 is back with his hocus pocus drivel.

Still believe your the only guy in the world who can
correctly communicate with god via faith? :D LMAO.

You simply make no sense.

Weve been through this many times.
You BELIEVE you have found god through your magical
powers of FAITH, and yet have NO WAY to prove that
any of this nonsense exists outside of your own mind.

It is for that reason that I frankly dont give a crap about
what I can only assume is your imagination.


PS. If your still hearing voices in your head, please see
a shrink. And if your god voices tell you to shoot people,
at least consider that maybe its not god after all :D


peace

axeman



Quote from ARogueTrader:



Before direct experience, everything is a theory. Love, sex, marriage, having children, financial success, disease, trading, music, art, etc. all can be understood on a theoretical level before direct experience, but they remain theory until direct experience.

If you want to call the purely intellectual ideas and concepts prior to the practice of faith in God a theory, fine by me.

The proof of the theory of God comes through the practice of faith, a practice that you failed to complete properly.

Had you been scientific with the practice of faith, and made a decision to accept faith in God over your doubting intellect you would have perhaps reached the conclusion and experiences that the majority who practice faith properly do.

You are a failed theist on a mission to prove that your failure was not your own, but the failure of someone else.
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Ummmmm... how about believing that your are
born a piece of shit sinner???

Do you think that could be psychologically harmful to a child?

Amazes me how clueless these theists are.

Starting out in the world with a NEGATIVE self worth ( a sinner )
is NOT a good thing.

Do I need to point out the fact AGAIN, that the bible supports
slavery?

Ill stop now while im ahead. Great book there.
Angry gods killing innocent babies with wild animals because
he is angry at some OTHER dude. Brilliant reasoning!

Yeah.... lots of great teachings in there. Whatever.





peace

axeman





Quote from TriPack:



Exactly which biblical principles did you live that didn't improve your life or in other words made your life worse?

If a book teaches principles then by living those principles, you should be able to determine for yourself whether that book is good or bad by evaluating your life before you started living those principles, and then after you started living those principles.
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