POLL: What is the World's Most Evil Religion?

[I Missed Boat]

Quote from Specul8r:



And I think you are kidding yourself if you truly beleive that. If you take the raw numbers of men and women slain in the name of christianity and compare it to any of the above religions, then it would not even be close.

With that said, I am not trying to compare the "evilness" of any of the above. Religions do not pertuate evil any more than they perpetuate themselves. This is mans doing, our ridiculous need to attach ourselves to the "killer b's" belief and belonging; which then perpetuates the "evil b's" -- bombs, be-headings, bloodshed, and on and on...

What events are you including? Hitler did not kill in the name of religion, nor did Stalin. And a given religion can indeed perpetrate evil if they perpetrate intolerance and killing (which the Koran itself does). Those who have killed in the name of Christianity did so by creating their own interpreteations, or because it was convenient, but not because of the actual teachings of the book. And no, I'm not even religious.

By the way, aside from the fact that the killing in the name of Christianity compared in numbers to the killing in the name of Islam can be compared, if you narrow it to more history centuries, then it is not even close (Islam has killed way more people in recent times (and this disparity is even more true in contemporary times). Moreover, there is killing and there is simple oppression. Not only does Islam oppress women and many of its own people in most Islamic countries (no, not all, just most), but it oppresses non-Muslums in those countries. Take Sudan, where the muslums kill, enslave and oppress the Christians and animasts. This is but one example!

What's more

 

[Gordon Gekko]

religion sucks

 

[Specul8r]

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

religion sucks

My mother finds peace in her religion. Be it true or not, what she believes and practices gives her joy, and she is a better person for it. My impression of you, is that you find lil to no joy at all in life -- perhaps you too should find religion...

Religion dosen't suck -- people for the most part suck, and there is a fundamental difference between the two, applehead. Saying religion sucks is comparable to saying that money is the square root of all evil, well I got news for you bubblehead, irrationaliy is, and whats the source of yours?

Kill Yourself...

 

[aradiel]

cars

some use it for dislocation purposes, like going to work or paying a visit to their ill grandma

others get drunk and make a mess on a bus stop minutes after the ignition start

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

religion sucks

prove it, you will end up stating how humans suck

whats stronger ? the flesh or the steel ? Conan knows the answer.



edit : and one more thing, I also share some similar views with Specul8r regarding religion. Gordon Geko, I like some of your posts, but remember, good money manager people are also good at practicing diplomacy. Making fun of religion/people beliefes are like school in summer time: no class.

 

[alfonso]

Quote from Rearden Metal:



Wow Alfonso, I like you now. Weren't you posting the exact opposite, cultural relativist viewpoint about a year ago? I could swear I remember you parroting the Guardian/Observer and other terrorist-hugging rags. Have you ingested the red pill?

Congratulations on your newfound common sense!

Yes Rearden, I must admit to leaning towards cultural relativism for a while. I just wanted this world to get along better so much that these emotions obviously clouded my judgement. Even though we do live in a grey world, sometimes those shades can really separate into near black and whiteness. And in the case of Islam, while I do believe that certain interpretations of it can have benefits for people, I think it's a slam dunk no brainer to say that its fundamental version is cruel, oppressive, violent, intolerant and backwards. Unfortunately, since liberals have made it a personal crusade (pardon the term) to take up Islam's cause -- lol, I'm even reading feminists defending the head scarf! -- it is somewhat difficult to get the point across to peole about the reality of Islam and muslims.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Well, it takes true moral strength to admit you're wrong, and change your viewpoint. Kudos, really.

I used to believe President Bush when he claimed that the risk of not attacking Iraq was greater than the risk of invading and occupying them. I admit I was probably wrong about that. Establishing a doctrine of pre-emptive attack on shaky grounds was not a good idea.

Quote from alfonso:




Yes Rearden, I must admit to leaning towards cultural relativism for a while. I just wanted this world to get along better so much that these emotions obviously clouded my judgement. Even though we do live in a grey world, sometimes those shades can really separate into near black and whiteness. And in the case of Islam, while I do believe that certain interpretations of it can have benefits for people, I think it's a slam dunk no brainer to say that its fundamental version is cruel, oppressive, violent, intolerant and backwards. Unfortunately, since liberals have made it a personal crusade (pardon the term) to take up Islam's cause -- lol, I'm even reading feminists defending the head scarf! -- it is somewhat difficult to get the point across to peole about the reality of Islam and muslims.

 

[aradiel]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Well, it takes true moral strength to admit you're wrong, and change your viewpoint. Kudos, really.

I used to believe President Bush when he claimed that the risk of not attacking Iraq was greater than the risk of invading and occupying them. I admit I was probably wrong about that. Establishing a doctrine of pre-emptive attack on shaky grounds was not a good idea.

that may be true, but I also wonder if it was indeed a good idea, but performed wrongly. We will never know.

 

[Glenn_Dude]

Quote from Specul8r:



Alfonso,

I do not believe the religion to be "evil" in and of itself, but when it comes down to which of the above religions have had more blood shed in the name of it, then anyone with even a remote sense of history would have to choose Christianity...

What is "evil" anyway?

I do not know enough about the Islamic religion to induce whether this "evil" label should be applied or not; hence I did not vote.




Hey Alfonso

I personally know of at least 1.5 Million "Christian" , "INFIDEL"people butchered & massacred in the name of Islam & "JIHAD" , here's some pictures of the results http://www.armenian-genocide.org/photo-wegner/index.htm
Here's some more pictures : http://www.genocide1915.info/pictures.asp

Here's a link to some quotes of famous people about the subject :
http://www.genocide1915.info/quotations.asp

And it was done right under the watchful eyes of mighty U.S.A. and it's Allies

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0155453/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-8612338-9203958

 

[alfonso]

Hi Glen,

Yes the Armenian genocide certainly was a gruesome event. One which, I'm afraid, not enough is known about (especially in comparison to the Holocaust).

However, I don't think it's fair to ping that one on Islam and Jihad solely, although I don't doubt such thinking played a part. It was more a response to events taking place during the 1st world war, between Russia and Turkey that caused Turkey to take action. And the Turkish regime of the time wasn't really a good example of what you'd call an "Islamist" regime, as the Young Turks established much more of a secular government.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from alfonso:

To those who chose it, on what, pray tell, criteria is Christianity more "evil" than Islam?

Presumably on total number of deaths caused in history (e.g. the many Crusades, the Inquisition, various religious wars in Europe, anti-Jewish pogroms, conquest of the Americas, colonisation of Africa etc).

Personally I would not vote any religion as "evil", as there are many faithful practitioners of each who are not evil in any way. IMO evil is the use of force & violence to infringe the rights of others.