POLL: The repercussions of a US attack on Iraq

[candletrader]

Quote from freealways:

>>Free Palestine from Israeli tyranny, punish US hegemony and God Bless France...<<

Ah, at last you are now starting to show your true colours.

Until now you have been flying under a false flag. It is underhand action like that which makes you lose any respectability which others may have thought that you may have possessed.

I would go as far as to say that it is Arabs like you who do the greatest harm to the Arabs' cause. You are in fact a traitor to the Arab cause.

yeeeeee ahhhhhhh

freealways

If I am an Arab, then you are a pink chimpanzee...

I would absolutely love to see the Saudi Arabian terrorist financier scum and Pakistani maniacal terrorists bombed the living daylights out of... and would probably support some kind of appropriate action taken on Iran, perhaps taking the form of UN monitors to facilitate the democratic process, when President Khatemi eventually decides to stand up more firmly against the fanatical Mullahs...

yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaa!

God Bless all rational American patriots... and may the oil war mongers rot in hell in bed with Osama, for they are morally equivalent...

 

[candletrader]

The question still remains, how should the civilized world punish America if it goes ahead with an illegal, non-mandated oil war?!

yeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaa

 

[buzzy2]

Quote from msfe:

Kanan Makiya is professor of Middle East studies at Brandeis University, Massachusetts

YAWN!
can anybody else see through makiya's agenda? isn't it obvious?...

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from candletrader:

It was gratifying to see such an amazing worldwide response to the oil lust and blood lust of Idiot Bush...

Idiot Bush has really lost the plot...

Free Palestine!

You argue like a woman.

All emotion, speculation, not fact. A woman typically argues from a feeling to conclusion, not reaching a logical conclusion to shape her feelings.

Try providing incontrovertible proof that Bush's agenda is oil and blood lust. Truth is that you can't. You are doing nothing but making a circumstantial case and conclusion......exactly the same as Bush is making a circumstantial case and conclusion.

All propaganda and bias, not a search for the truth.

Suggesting that worldwide response is some indicator of truth is foolish, unless those who respond are in a position to reason from fact.

I would never want a leader to react to mob mentality, would you?

Right now there is anti-American sentiment and anti-Bush feelings and people are expressing those feelings. Good, that is their right, but that alone should not be a determinant factor in decision making by leadership.

Leaders are supposed to govern by what is right and factual, not what is conjecture and emotion.

Make a good case, put forth your opinions, but know that without fact and evidence, your are no different that the other side in your process who does the same thing and has reached a different conclusion.

You are just another pot calling a kettle black.

 

[candletrader]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:



You argue like a woman.

All emotion, speculation, not fact. A woman typically argues from a feeling to conclusion, not reaching a logical conclusion to shape her feelings.

Try providing incontrovertible proof that Bush's agenda is oil and blood lust. Truth is that you can't. You are doing nothing but making a circumstantial case and conclusion......exactly the same as Bush is making a circumstantial case and conclusion.

All propaganda and bias, not a search for the truth.

Suggesting that worldwide response is some indicator of truth is foolish, unless those who respond are in a position to reason from fact.

I would never want a leader to react to mob mentality, would you?

Right now there is anti-American sentiment and anti-Bush feelings and people are expressing those feelings. Good, that is their right, but that alone should not be a determinant factor in decision making by leadership.

Leaders are supposed to govern by what is right and factual, not what is conjecture and emotion.

Make a good case, put forth your opinions, but know that without fact and evidence, your are no different that the other side in your process who does the same thing and has reached a different conclusion.

You are just another pot calling a kettle black.

HAHAHAHAHA!

I am finding it hard to control my laughter after reading your attempt at coherency... so tell me, what proof has Idiot Bush provided??? NONE...

ROFLMAO... Idiots never learn...

I will be the FIRST ONE to support a war if the US gets a mandate for it through the UN... cos then there is INTERNATIONAL LEGITIMACY...

Without INTERNATIONAL LEGITIMACY, Bush = Osama and an attack on Iraq is just the same as an attack on the world trade center... US foreign policy will (in the event of no international legitimacy) be viewed by the civilized world as morally equivalent to the foreign policy of Al-Quaeda ...

It seems like the civilized world is gonna be sitting back with its beer as the US foreign policy makers commit terrorism on Muslims and they, in return, commit revenge terrrorism on the USA... I, for one, just bought two crateloads of beer to watch this two-way turkey-shoot... should prove interesting... I may need to get more beer in

yeeeeeeeehhhhhhaaaaaaaaa!!

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from candletrader:




HAHAHAHAHA!

I am finding it hard to control my laughter after reading your attempt at coherency... so tell me, what proof has Idiot Bush provided??? NONE...

ROFLMAO... Idiots never learn...

I will be the FIRST ONE to support a war if the US gets a mandate for it through the UN... cos then there is INTERNATIONAL LEGITIMACY...

Without INTERNATIONAL LEGITIMACY, Bush = Osama and an attack on Iraq is just the same as an attack on the world trade center... US foreign policy will (in the event of no international legitimacy) be viewed by the civilized world as morally equivalent to the foreign policy of Al-Quaeda ...

It seems like the civilized world is gonna be sitting back with its beer as the US foreign policy makers commit terrorism on Muslims and they, in return, commit revenge terrrorism on the USA... I, for one, just bought two crateloads of beer to watch this two-way turkey-shoot... should prove interesting... I may need to get more beer in

yeeeeeeeehhhhhhaaaaaaaaa!!

Was my focus in support of Bush, or commenting on your methods of communication and the use of the same tactics and strategy that Bush and company employ?

You make claims, without evidence to support them. Make a case against Bush, but a case is still not fact when there is opinion and speculation at its basis.....it is just theory and opinion.

As soon as someone provides a "smoking gun" about Bush's real motive, I'll perk up and listen. Apart from that, it just conjecture, and conjecture is not the basis of decision making by intelligent men.

Typical, typical, typical of reactionary thinking.

Deal with it like a man, or react like a woman makes no difference to me, I continue to see you react like a woman.

Those who witness this thread will see what mentality is really involved.

I just post what I see, and what I see is that you have bias and agenda, use propaganda like everyone else, and if we do arrive at "international legitimacy" I bet you will find some excuse to condemn that too.

You miss my point, which is neither pro Bush, or anti Bush, but why should I be surprised that you miss the point?

It takes common sense and clear vision to have valid discussions, both of which you appear to lack in "spades."

 

[goldenarm]

Yeah, Candle reminds me of my ex-girlfriend. Emotionally volatile, rationally infantile...

I'd be surprised if Candle can find a boyfriend that can tolerate her outbursts...

 

[candletrader]

You pathetic losers are a constant source of amusement.... ROFL... yeeeehaaaaa!!

Anyway, someone's gotta play the fool, so it may as well be you...

USA remains internationally isolated and remains a prime target for the hatred of the civilized world...

The civilized world ain't gonna bother... it has seen all the confirmation it needs to conclude what you stand for...

Don't go crying to the civilized world when the repercussions of the policies you war mongers support come home... HAHAHAHA!!! yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE CIVILIZED WORLD WILL ONLY BACK THE USA IF THERE IS IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT ALLOWS A SECOND UN RESOLUTION TO BE PASSED... THEN THE CIVILIZED WORLD WILL SUPPORT MILITARY ACTION... BUT WITH NO SUCH RESOLUTION, WAR IS NOT LEGALLY MANDATED, AND IF THE USA ATTACKS PRE-EMPTIVELY, IT IS NO BETTER THAN OSAM.A ACTING PRE-EMPTIVELY...

MOREOVER, WITH A SECOND UN RESOLUTION, EVEN I (YEAH ME, CANDLEMAN) WILL SUPPORT AN ATTACK ON IRAQ...

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from candletrader:

You pathetic losers are a constant source of amusement.... ROFL... yeeeehaaaaa!!

Anyway, someone's gotta play the fool, so it may as well be you...

USA remains internationally isolated and remains a prime target for the hatred of the civilized world...

The civilized world ain't gonna bother... it has seen all the confirmation it needs to conclude what you stand for...

Don't go crying to the civilized world when the repercussions of the policies you war mongers support come home... HAHAHAHA!!! yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE CIVILIZED WORLD WILL ONLY BACK THE USA IF THERE IS IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT ALLOWS A SECOND UN RESOLUTION TO BE PASSED... THEN THE CIVILIZED WORLD WILL SUPPORT MILITARY ACTION... BUT WITH NO SUCH RESOLUTION, WAR IS NOT LEGALLY MANDATED, AND IF THE USA ATTACKS PRE-EMPTIVELY, IT IS NO BETTER THAN OSAMA ACTING PRE-EMPTIVELY...

When you can't defeat the message, you go after the messenger.

Typical womanly response.

 

[candletrader]

WHEN YOU BREAK INTERNATIONAL LAW, BE PREPARED TO HAVE YOUR SKYSCRAPERS KNOCKED DOWN AND FOR THE CIVILIZED WORLD TO TELL THE USA TO F**K OFF IF THE INTERNATIONAL GANGSTER AMERICA COMES CRYING TO THE CIVILIZED WORLD...

BUT IF YOU WAGE WAR WITH THE BACKING OF THE UN, BE PREPARED TO BE FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE CIVILIZED WORLD AND EVEN BY THE CANDLEMAN... MOREOVER, EXPECT SUPPORT AND SYMPATHY FROM THE CIVILIZED FOR ANY ACTS OF TERRORISM COMMITTED AGAINST A LAW-ABIDING USA...

THE USA HAS TWO CHOICES, THE PATH OF INTERNATIONAL GANGSTERISM OR THE PATH OF INTERNATIONAL LEGITIMACY...