POLL: The repercussions of a US attack on Iraq

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from traderfut2000:

The leader of Iraq, Abdul Karim Kassem, is overthrown in a coup and summarily executed. The USA gives the new regime (the Ba'ath Party - soon to be headed by Saddam Hussein) the names of communists who are then killed. Thousands die.

Kassem had helped found the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) in an attempt to curtail Western control of Arab oil. He had been planning to nationalise the Iraq Petroleum Company in which the USA had an interest. Iraq had also disapproved when Kuwait had been given independence by the UK with a pro-west emir (king) and oil concessions to Western companies.

A few days before the coup, the French newspaper La Monde had reported that Kassem had been warned by the USA government to change his country's economic policies or face sanctions. British government papers later declassified would indicate that the coup was backed by the USA and UK.

The new government promises not to nationalise American oil interests and renounces its claim to Kuwait. The USA recognises and praises the new government.

Let me guess....Wild is emailing you articles to cup and paste....

 

[traderfut2000]

It's about oil of course...
Who cares about muslim christians jews when big money is at stake... Saddam was put in power by the USA and the UK... Read what I posted above.

Quote from TM_Direct:

YES or NO....The possible war with IRAQ is ALL about OIL?????


Or is it possibly the larger battle of Muslims vs Christians and Jews?

 

[traderfut2000]

Yeah, I missed that guy

Quote from OPTIONAL777:



Let me guess....Wild is emailing you articles to cup and paste....

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from traderfut2000:

It's about oil of course...
Who cares about muslim christians jews when big money is at stake... Saddam was put in power by the USA and the UK... Read what I posted above.

Give me proof that it is about oil.....

That is an opinion...not proof.

Read Rush Limbaugh, he will tell you it is about terrorism.

He can't prove his opinions any more than you can.

 

[dgabriel]

traderfut1000 is on autopilot.

Candletrader, you must be sitting in a basement reading the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"

Where do you get the idea that the American Jews you listed (Ballmer is Jewish?) support uncritically American- Israeli foreign policy?

The focus on the American -Israeli relationship is highlighted today by the Islamic terrorist cause. Should America abandon an ally because Al-Queda seek to punish the US for this relationship?
Do you really want the Islamic terrorists to extort American foreign policy? Maybe you do.

It appears the Islamic Jew-hater has found common ground with certain Western groups.

 

[TM_Direct]

Tfuture,,,,you are contradicting your own pasting....On the one hand America is a mindless diabolical imperialist looking out for it's own oil needs....on the other had, we turn our back on the oil countries ( and faced an oil embargo at one point) just to support Israel, the sworn enemy of the Arab nations.....does this make sense? We liberated Kuwait, put out the oil fires and then left....Does that make sense? Choose one line or the other....If it's for the OIL then why would we support Israel so strongly? You think BUSH cares what the Jewish vote in America thinks? they vote about 85% democrat so why would he care about supporting Israel and giving up the oil....reach deeper brother, you know the answer....but you can't have it both ways.

 

[traderfut2000]

"One isIsrael's role as a USA proxy in the Middle East and its integration into the USA security system, which encompasses not only keeping the Arab world in line,"

if the USA sends the third of all its foreign help to a small country like Israel it is not because of the Jewish lobby even if it can have a minor and I agree with Rs7 on that. It's about OIL... Of course, the Jews are happy because they have a land but the main point is securing the oil reserves. The day, when there will be no OIL, the USA will not send anymore the third of its help to Israel.
And if the USA wants to attack a country and kill hundreds of thousands more people, it is not because of human rights, al quaeda and all those jokes but about oil...

Peace

Quote from TM_Direct:

Why does the United States support Israel's ethnic cleansing? Broadly speaking, the reasons boil down to two factors. One isIsrael's role as a USA proxy in the Middle East and its integration into the USA security system, which encompasses not only keeping the Arab world in line, but also providing services like supplying arms to the Somoza regime in Nicaragua, the Pinochet government of Chile, Mobutu, Idi Amin, apartheid South Africa, and the Guatemalan and Argentinian terror states. Because of these services, Israel's victims are not merely unworthy, they also become 'terrorists' and part of the 'Islamic threat' for the USA political elite and mainstream media."

"The second factor is the exceptional power of the pro-Israel lobby, which for many years has bought and bullied politicians and the media, so that they all vie with one another in genuflections to the holy state. This bullying is especially strong and effective in Canada and the United States, but it applies widely, and the distinguished British reporter Robert Fisk, describing the abuse he has suffered in reporting on the Middle East, says that 'the attempt to force the media to obey Israel's rules is now international'."
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So you would agree then....The US is not attacking Iraq for oil?


This is my point....If it was all about Oil why would we support Israel? You answered my question very nicely....It's not about Oil..if it was about oil, we could tell Israel your on your own and belly up to the Arabs..Instead, we infuriate the Arab countries with israeli support in SPITE of the oil implications.

thanks for the post

 

[dgabriel]

No, it certainly does not. But this TraderFut is "cognitively challenged" and lacking sense is understandable.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from traderfut2000:

Yeah, I missed that guy

It is common for the intellectually weak to surround themselves with others who think the same way they do. They seek constant reinforcement of their fragile belief systems, much like a child clings to his mommy.

Those who think for themselves, who have individuated from their caregivers, seek freedom from the bondage of a fixed opinion, an choose to form their own opinions, as theirs is a life of continually opening themselves up to seeking out opinions from different and reasonable perspectives in their search for the unvarnished truth.

 

[traderfut2000]

TM did you know that near all the oil fields in the middle east there was a US base???
Did you know that there a big number of US soldiers in Saudia???
Did you know that MOsadech the former Iranian prime minister was killed by the CIA because he wanted to nationalize the Iranian oil fields...

Peace

Quote from TM_Direct:

Tfuture,,,,you are contradicting your own pasting....On the one hand America is a mindless diabolical imperialist looking out for it's own oil needs....on the other had, we turn our back on the oil countries ( and faced an oil embargo at one point) just to support Israel, the sworn enemy of the Arab nations.....does this make sense? We liberated Kuwait, put out the oil fires and then left....Does that make sense? Choose one line or the other....If it's for the OIL then why would we support Israel so strongly? You think BUSH cares what the Jewish vote in America thinks? they vote about 85% democrat so why would he care about supporting Israel and giving up the oil....reach deeper brother, you know the answer....but you can't have it both ways.