POLL: The repercussions of a US attack on Iraq

[agin1415]

dgabriel, you have a fearful scenario

You probably watch Phil Donahue on TV.

You a member of A.N.S.W.E.R. ?

 

[agin1415]

You are superimposing - THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH on American History, it wont work.

You are fearful of the German past history and thinking somehow the United States is going to replicate German History.

Name one instance that United States, occupied, anyplace in the world and set up a Puppet Government and stole resources, and enslaved people?

Thats GERMAN HISTORY.

 

[TM_Direct]

"any suggestion for the new Bush cabinet position of Imperial American Propagandaminister ?"


Right wild, Germany doesn't take part in propaganda....their not aligning themselves with the oil countruies to take advantage of somebody elses misfortuen....It's over...Europe is over,,,

 

[agin1415]

TM I think you could handle that job. I want to be Imperial Vicroy of Iraq.

Figure it will take me about 10 years to get their heads right, get the WALMARTS built, the resorts on the Gulf, the pleasure palaces and Casino's.

And start increasing Oil Production. Gas 25 cents a gallon in the US.

I was thinking of making IRAQ a TAX haven, no Income Taxes.

Figure I will have IRAQ's GNP up over the Combined European GNP in a coupla years.

How about a IRAQI electronic exchange, LOL, the IRADAQ.

 

[TM_Direct]

How about a IRAQI electronic exchange, LOL, the IRADAQ.


LOL

It could probably beat the EU in volume within two years....

What exactly does Europe produce these days? it seems like Japan and Europe have spent the last 20 years perfecting car engineering....While America has been perfecting computers and planes.......They go 0-60 in 4. seconds with a BMW....we put a shuttle into orbit every 30 days....The French have one redeeming quality.....as soon as I think of it I'll get back to you...the Eiffel tower?....Nah...that's an erector set....French WHine? ...Germany does have some good beer though...You need all the acohol when you wake up in a cowardly country every day with nothing to offer..I'd be drunk every day too..

 

[traderfut2000]

The least you can do is recognize there is much more evidence to call it a fact. ,Iraq will be atacked for oil and not for human rights or arms of mass destruction. This is the silliest thing I have ever heard...

You can defend Bush and that is your right. But defending the fact that the war is not done for oil is a lost case. Even tyhe dumbest lawyer can win this case

Peace

TF

Quote from OPTIONAL777:



How about proof, rather that speculation and innuendo?

You know proof....evidence.....argument from evidence to conclusion, not reprints or reposts from leftist agenda authors in an attempt to create the illusion that you have demonstrated any causal relationship between your theory and actuality.

The great thing about the very best conspiracy theories, is that they can neither be proven nor disproven....unless you have a bain, that is....

Since all you ever do is offer up "strawman arguments*" this must be what you sing to yourself and you copy and paste away the hours:


I could while away the hours
Conferring with the flowers
Consulting with the rain.
And my head I'd be a-scratchin'
While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.

I'd unravel every riddle
For any individdle
In trouble or in pain
With the thoughts I'd be a-thinkin'
I could be another Lincoln
If I only had a brain.

Oh I could tell you why
The ocean's near the shore
I could think of things I'd never thunk before
And then I'd sit, and think some more.

I would not be just a nothin'
My head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain
I would laugh and I'd be merry
Life would be a dinglederry
If I only had brain.

*Strawman Arguments:

"When an argument misrepresents an opponent's views in order to make them easier to criticize, it is called a Straw-man argument. Now, the idea behind the name is that instead of doing real rhetorical battle with a real opponent, one sets up a straw-man---a ridiculous view that your opponent does not hold--then proceed to triumphantly demolish it. The argument may or may not be logically strong, but in either case it should be faulted for falsehood and logical irrelevance."


I am considering trying to copyright the new term I have coined:

"Wildman Arguments"

"Wildman arguments" consist of the copying of information from unreliable sources written by bias agenda based socialist leftists
found on the internet and then posting it as some form of an "argument." The "Wildman Argument" is obviously a non responsive attempt by the one using it to create the impression that since someone is being quoted, the quote has meaning and value and should be taken seriously or as proof. "Wildman arguments" are illogical, and employed by those who lack the sufficient foundation and ability to speak reasonably for themselves on issues.

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Quote from traderfut2000:

The least you can do is recognize there is much more evidence to call it a fact. ,Iraq will be attacked for oil and not for human rights or arms of mass destruction. This is the silliest thing I have ever heard...

You can defend Bush and that is your right. But defending the fact that the war is not done for oil is a lost case. Even tyhe dumbest lawyer can win this case

Peace

TF

Proof is the absence of any doubt. When there is no proof, only speculation and conjecture.

If you had no bias, you could not come to any conclusion without proof.

You might say, "it is possible, but I don't really know." You might say, "it is probable, but I don't really know." So, any conclusion that is drawn, is speculation, not fact.

That is my point, those who say they know, really don't.

Extremist thinkers usually substitute opinions for fact to make their cases.

As far as dumb lawyers, in this country, you are deemed innocent until proven guilty.

If those who throw out theories and conspiracy theories have proof, I am willing to listen. Prove that Bush is guilty of the charges you levy against him and his administration.

Fact is that you can't prove it.

So, when I know someone has an agenda, either too far to the right, or too far to the left, in the absence of proof I don't trust what they say as being valid.

Same goes for right wing types like Rush Limburger. I don't buy what he says, he has no credibility as he just spins data to fit his agenda.

That is what I am seeing here from Wild and others, just pushing an agenda, and not supporting their position with factual data or consistently logical conclusions.

 

[wild]

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regards

wild

 

[TM_Direct]

You finally provided PROOF



Proof that there is at least ONE german in this world who isn't a Fascist, racist cowardly pig!!!


I know it's going to be tougher, but can you find a french man who isnt: a) a coward or b) a pole smoker?

 

[Madison]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:


Extremist thinkers usually substitute opinions for fact to make their cases.

As far as dumb lawyers, in this country, you are deemed innocent until proven guilty.

So, when I know someone has an agenda, either too far to the right, or too far to the left, in the absence of proof I don't trust what they say as being valid.

I agree - great points.