POLL: How do you think the Supreme Court will rule on Obamacare?
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The thing to keep in mind for all those who hate the bill. You might think it is bad with the individual mandate, but it is much worse without it. Striking down the mandate but upholding the rest would be keeping the expensive stuff and eliminating any method to recoup the expense.
Consider a young guy with high debt. He really wants a new car but doesn't qualify for a loan because of his income is too low. So he hatches a plan to steal $1K a month from his senile grandmother. He then works out the purchase on the car. A short time later his crime is discovered and they tell him..
"The car purchase agreement was legal, so you have to keep the car. But stealing the money was illegal, so you'll need to give that back and you can't steal any more."
This is the situation the Dems are in. Many of them never would've voted for the bill without the mandate, and they specifically made statements to that effect. Just like the car is not severable from the theft, the mandate is not severable from the rest of the bill.
Consider a young guy with high debt. He really wants a new car but doesn't qualify for a loan because of his income is too low. So he hatches a plan to steal $1K a month from his senile grandmother. He then works out the purchase on the car. A short time later his crime is discovered and they tell him..
"The car purchase agreement was legal, so you have to keep the car. But stealing the money was illegal, so you'll need to give that back and you can't steal any more."
This is the situation the Dems are in. Many of them never would've voted for the bill without the mandate, and they specifically made statements to that effect. Just like the car is not severable from the theft, the mandate is not severable from the rest of the bill.
Right, which is why yesterday they were basically saying that it isn't realistic to think they are going to go through the 2700 pages and rule on each item. If they rule against the mandate, they will most likely throw out the whole bill.
Then we can go back to being America and stop transitioning into a euro-garbage socialist wannabe nation.
June
This says different:
from S.1770 103rd Congress
Subtitle FâUniversal Coverage
2 SEC. 1501. REQUIREMENT OF COVERAGE.
3 (a) IN GENERAL.âEffective January 1, 2005, each
4 individual who is a citizen or lawful permanent resident
5 of the United States shall be covered underâ
6 (1) a qualified health plan, or
7 (2) an equivalent health care program (as de-
8 fined in section 1601(7)).
9 (b) EXCEPTION.âSubsection (a) shall not apply in
10 the case of an individual who is opposed for religious rea-
11 sons to health plan coverage, including an individual who
12 declines health plan coverage due to a reliance on healing
13 using spiritual means through prayer alone.
ââSEC. 5000B. FAILURE OF EMPLOYERS OR LARGE EM-
19 PLOYER PLANS WITH RESPECT TO HEALTH
20 INSURANCE.
21 ââ(a) GENERAL RULE.âThere is hereby imposed a
22 tax on the failure of any person or plan to comply with
23 the requirements of section 1004 or section 1201 of the
24 Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act of 1993 with218
â¢S 1770 PCS1S
1 respect to any employee of the person or enrollee of the
2 plan.
3 ââ(b) AMOUNT OF TAX.â
4 ââ(1) IN GENERAL.âThe amount of the tax im-
5 posed by subsection (a) on any failure with respect
6 to an employee or enrollee shall be $100 for each
7 day in the noncompliance period with respect to such
8 failure.
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