I'm not making up anything.
That's the sentiment YOU have, but you are damn naive if you think the average american has such a rational expectation.
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Poll - have Obama-Geithner caused the next major decline?
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I'm not making up anything.
That's the sentiment YOU have, but you are damn naive if you think the average american has such a rational expectation.
My sentiment is based on nothing more than what he has repeatedly said over time. Whether it plays out as he intends remains to be seen, but that is a separate matter. The matter at hand is not putting words into his mouth. That would be the intellectual honesty you referred to earlier in this thread.Quote from palenimbus:
I'm not making up anything.
That's the sentiment YOU have, but you are damn naive if you think the average american has such a rational expectation.
Quote from Thunderdog:
He cultivated the sentiment of taking steps in the right direction and the need for hard work and sacrifice to fix the problems created by the outgoing administration. He never said fast and he never said easy. He said better. You don't have to like him and you don't have to agree with him, but that does not give you license to make stuff up as you go along.
Reading your posts is really painful.
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Actually, I don't think he earned it. I think you gave it freely and willingly. Sorry, gnome, just calling it as I see it.
He has apparently defrauded the US Constitution and every American. How much respect is that worth?
Since he as taken office, I've read that at least Texas and Florida have said they may not put his name on the ballot for the 2012 presidential election unless he complies with birth certificate eligibility rquirements. (Wonder why they didn't say that for 2008?) Apparently this issue is NOT resolved in more minds than just mine.
Quote from Thunderdog:
Obama never promised a "magic bullet," neither before his campaign nor after. He talked about the challenges ahead and that they would take time to resolve. You may or may not have reason to dislike him, but he never promised you a rose garden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19tRBDFWkyw&feature=PlayList&p=EEEC84B49F7BF8DD&playnext=1&index=26
oh, blah blah blah.
Bush talked about the challenges ahead that would take time to resolve, etc. So what?
And he did promise a rose garden. He promised to get America "on the right path" and to "change the failed policies of the previous administration" and a million other similar idiotic soundbites.
So far, he's Bush squared. We're going down the same road to Banana Republicville - only faster. So, by "change", he clearly meant "increase the speed of the decline to third world economy".
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Oddly enough I think that the economy will land where it lands.
How long this takes depends on whether the net effect of all the interference is positive or negative, but the interference will not effect the course.
Consumers are in the middle of a big fright and no amount of additional fear will force them to spend again.
It is Japan all over again, simply because people are people.
PS the credit expansion of the last six decades was based on the believe that big business and gov. more or less knew what they were doing.
Now this confidence has been shattered completely
Interference can make things a lot worse, but it will never make things better.
And I don't agree with you about the credit expansion. Business makes mistakes all the time. The massive credit expansion over the last decade has a lot more to do with government subsidizing uncreditworthy borrowers at the expense of the taxpayer and stomping on interest rates to loosen the money supply and effect a fake recovery from a needed recession to win the next election.
With due respect, gnome, I think he knows more about the Constitution than you do. Further, he has enough Right Wing adversaries such that if there were any legitimacy to the claims against him, they would have preventged him from taking office. Please give it a rest, gnome. You're going radically fringe on me and you're a lot better than that. Really. Just look at the bona fide morons spouting that argument just here at ET. Surely that should give you some pause...Quote from gnome:
He has apparently defrauded the US Constitution and every American. How much respect is that worth?
Since he as taken office, I've read that at least Texas and Florida have said they may not put his name on the ballot for the 2012 presidential election unless he complies with birth certificate eligibility rquirements. Apparently this issue is NOT resolved in more minds than just mine.
Quote from Thunderdog:
With due respect, gnome, I think he knows more about the Constitution than you do. Further, he has enough Right Wing adversaries such that if there were any legitimacy to the claims against him, they would have preventged him from taking office. Please give it a rest, gnome. You're going radically fringe on me and you're a lot better than that. Really.
Make your pitch to the Texas and Florida Election Commissions.. see what they say.