POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

[Charlie Dow]

Quote from downtickboy:

Well you can look at it both ways. You have made your share of what many feel are outrageous claims too on the existence of successfully trading trends. If you insist that Charlie must have accountability why is it any different for you? I remember a time of you trying to market other websites and use ET as a place to advertise other products too so why are you suddenly in a different category. I think if you are calling him out you have as much to prove about your market claims and how it works as he does. Lets see some objective testing of your strategy and then give it away for free like you want him to do. Just being fair right?

Thanks DTB. Trying to persuade marketsniffer to be fair is a tall order. His mom forgot to teach him about that one.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from Vienna:

Quote from marketsurfer:

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PROVE that the claims are outrageous, otherwise you completely lose credibility, don't you see?

Anyways, enough of this... point made, no use in beating a dead horse....

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here is the proof that he makes outrageous claims:

http://www.logicalmarkettrends.com/2005 Perfect.htm


his record for 2005. this record is not improbable, it is impossible, (without the benefit of hindsight, ofcourse LOL ! ) surely, you can see why the issue with these claims.....

any questions??


LOL !

surfer

 

[Charlie Dow]

Quote from marketsurfer:



here is the proof that he makes outrageous claims:

http://www.logicalmarkettrends.com/2005 Perfect.htm

his record for 2005.

any questions??

LOL !

surfer

If I scare you that much and you think I trade so "Outrageously". Trade against me or keep your petty sophomoric comments to yourself. Come March you will not be so smug. I have the patience to wait it out because the reward will be soooooo sweet.

No comments to your condemning public except lashing out at me . . . typical marketsniffer.

 

[marketsurfer]

Quote from Charlie Dow:

Thanks DTB. Trying to persuade marketsurfer to be fair is a tall order. His mom forgot to teach him about that one.

are those fair and legitimate trades posted on your site??


LOL !

surfer

 

[Charlie Dow]

Quote from marketsurfer:

are those fair and legitimate trades posted on your site??


LOL !

surfer

Trade me and find out. Simple enough right?

 

[Charlie Dow]

I'm putting an end to this banter for a while. Time to put up Christmas decorations with the family. Next week is another week.

If marketsniffer wishes to spew he can do so to the masses but will fall on deaf ears here. I've made my choice to sit with Murray in March. A choice I am really looking forward to following through with.

We have seen marketsniffer's demeanor toward trading against anyone due to not wanting to embarrass himself and I guess if I were in his position with his self-esteem I would do the same. I'm just glad I will never be a cynical mess like that.

Good & consistent trading to all this week whatever your choice of methods.

 

[Magna]

Quote from Magna on 11/6/05:

For those with any doubt, Charlie Dow is ProfLogic. One and the same person. Flawlessly.

This was posted 3 weeks ago in another thread to clarify things after a number of other people noticed/mentioned the similarities between ProfLogic and Charlie Dow, in order to end that discussion. The use of the word "flawlessly" was because ProfLogic always used the word "perfectly" to describe his setups, market read, and trading, and when he was resurrected as Charlie Dow (even though ProfLogic had never been banned) that word somehow transformed into "flawlessly", which one member suggested was to cloak his true identity. Or it was just a big coincidence, whatever. In any case, notice there was no mention of his real name, phone number, address, email address, website, I.P. address, etc.

Quote from Charlie Dow:

That wasn't the case Steve until Magna outed me on November 6th, this year in the "Predicting randomness" thread based on his personal bias & breaking the privacy rules of this site. [Use of Your Personal and Non-Personal Information Except as disclosed in this policy, we do not sell or disclose information that identifies our guests personally or makes it possible for other parties to contact them directly without our guests' consent.]

Up to that point I never made a single reference as Charlie Dow to anything I do outside this site. That is verifiable by searching the threads here. So your comment about ego is way off base.

I hate pissing contests as much as anyone but I have a right to defend myself. Bottom line is that we wouldn't be having this conversation if Magna wouldn't have broken the Privacy Rules of this site. I've asked Baron to look into it, both in an email and in a PM but haven't gotten a response. The problem I have is that anyone's personal information isn't safe as long as a moderator can put any information out there that compromises an individuals privacy.

Quote from Charlie Dow:

As I stated earlier in the thread, until Magna outed me 11/18 (sic), I had never mentioned what I do outside of ET as Charlie Dow. Absolutely no self promotion on my part.
Whatever Magna's reasoning for doing what he did I can only imagine. It seemed personal and was definately against ET privacy policy.

As this is the second time he's felt the need to bring this up I wanted all members to see the nonsense/whining, and to refute it. I don't want this thread to get more off-topic, although his constant posturing, challenging, and desires to "humiliate" (in his own word) marketsurfer are doing just that. Many have suggested that all his posts are indeed promotion, and a good argument could be made for that, flawlessly. Anyway, just wanted members to see that no ET Privacy Policy was violated and that appropriate discussion should rest solely between him and me (or Baron), not in a thread about Determining Trend.

 

[Vienna]

Quote from marketsurfer:

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here is the proof that he makes outrageous claims:

http://www.logicalmarkettrends.com/2005 Perfect.htm


Any questions??


LOL !

surfer

Yes, as a matter of fact I have 2 questions:

1. When will YOU either trade against the Prof or submit audited trading records of your own? Since his claims are so obviously outrageous, it should be a cakewalk for you to prove that you can do better! What could possibly be easier than disproving an obvious charlatan, especially for someone who posts constantrly at ET and therefore must be a mastertrader? Takes you 3 weeks, he loses a ton of money and you make a bundle- voila!

2. When will you submit your "Proprietery Neogann-channel" or whatever the method is called to public testing, and disclose all of it's parameters? It's only fair since you asked the Prof to do it, isn't it?

Waiting with bated breath,

Vienna

 

[OddTrader]

Quote from Charlie Dow:

Hey Odd,

As I stated earlier in the thread, until Magna outed me 11/18, I had never mentioned what I do outside of ET as Charlie Dow. Absolutely no self promotion on my part.
Whatever Magna's reasoning for doing what he did I can only imagine. It seemed personal and was definately against ET privacy policy.

As long as you're willing to share your contesting profits with me, anything you say is right, at least for now.

 

[Charlie Dow]

Quote from Magna:

This was posted 3 weeks ago in another thread to clarify things after a number of other people noticed/mentioned the similarities between ProfLogic and Charlie Dow, in order to end that discussion. The use of the word "flawlessly" was because ProfLogic always used the word "perfectly" to describe his setups, market read, and trading, and when he was resurrected as Charlie Dow (even though ProfLogic had never been banned) that word somehow transformed into "flawlessly", which one member suggested was to cloak his true identity. Or it was just a big coincidence, whatever. In any case, notice there was no mention of his real name, phone number, address, email address, website, I.P. address, etc.



As this is the second time he's felt the need to bring this up I wanted all members to see the nonsense/whining, and to refute it. I don't want this thread to get more off-topic, although his constant posturing, challenging, and desires to "humiliate" (in his own word) marketsurfer are doing just that. Many have suggested that all his posts are indeed promotion, and a good argument could be made for that, flawlessly. Anyway, just wanted members to see that no ET Privacy Policy was violated and that appropriate discussion should rest solely between him and me (or Baron), not in a thread about Determining Trend.

Cool, then Baron won't mind returning the email I sent him days ago stating to me in writing that you didn't violate the Rules of this site then either, correct?

Prior to you outing me, it is verifiable that I NEVER made a single reference to what I do outside of ET. Once you outed me the correlation between the two monikers, for absolutely no reason other than your personal wishes, was the same as releasing personal information on an individual. If there was a valid reason for the outing I would abstain but there isn't. It's not whining to stay up for one's rights even here in a monarcy. I followed the rules you didn't. http://www.elitetrader.com/privacy.cfm (Use of Your Personal and Non-Personal Information Except as disclosed in this policy, we do not sell or disclose information that identifies our guests personally or makes it possible for other parties to contact them directly without our guests' consent.)

If the discussion doesn't belong here then have Baron email and solve it.