POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

[hans37]

Quote from Charlie Dow:

Then I am at a loss.

Hell I knew that from your first reply on page 6.

 

[Charlie Dow]

Quote from marketsurfer:

whatever i think about your methods, one thing is for sure---- you have quite the sense of humour !

i mean sincerely without a hint of sarcasm.

surfer

from Samson77

11-18-05 09:46 PM
Surfer

Is a guy that was a Technical Trend Trader and is now writing both of them off as rubbish.

He is also selling COPIES of a Paul Tudor Jones video bootleg here in Et at $300 a crack

So using YOUR logic surfer HOW can a guy that needs to sell videos at $300 bootleg give any advise on trading be taken seriously?

In order to make logical assumptions doesn't one need to act logicaly to start with?

Sorry Dave but you are behaving a little inconsistantly these days!

________________________________________

now that is what I call funny.

 

[Equalizer]

Quote from Charlie Dow:
Quote from Equalizer:
Talking of misquoting, you don't even know what my ideas are, therefore you should perhaps refrain from expressing yourself through your sphincter and assuming that your mangled Dow theory is something unique and unknown, or different to what others use.

Charlie Response: I what I do is exactly what others do, PROVE IT. Prove me wrong with real data not your lip service. Should be simple for you.

It is extremely simple for me. You Sir are a moron, for if you carefully re-read this thread, as you so point out later in your original response, you will realise that I have never really attacked your ...ahem... method, therefore I don't have to prove or disprove that this "method" works or does not. My observations have always been referring to your self-promotion tactics (guess the victims are drying up ). Bur as per usual, you attempt to divert "the heat" by attempting to force a confrontation on a different aspect, in this case "the method". I still like your use of NLP though, still reckon you missed your true calling, you should be in advertising.

Quote from Charlie Dow:
Quote from Equalizer:
read my post again, where I talk about your bollocks attitude, perhaps you might then understand what I was talking about. Perhaps I should dig up some posts from your ex-students who if memory serves described your approach as that of a bully - heaven forfend that they might question the methods of a true master on a chat site

Charlie Response: I can post from students that failed at learning any method. I can post thousands from failed Elliott, Gann, Time & Price, Fibonacci, Market Profile, and every other Method out there.

And YOU accuse me of misquoting you??? Sir, I laugh at you for being so silly. My comments above relate to the bullying tactics exhibited towards any enquiring minds in your chatroom, who ever questioned you or your methods, yet your response assumes that they are failed "students" (and I use that term rather loosely, "disciples" might be more appropriate).

The quote stands. You Sir, are a bully. period.

Quote from Charlie Dow:
Quote from Equalizer:
Thats right, when someone challenges you, just weasel off by saying they are not playing fair, or they are "misquoting you".

Charlie Response: Anyone bright enough to read the entire thread can make the common sense decision as to misquoting.

Nice try Charles but:
1). You are wrong and perhaps it is you that should re-read this thread.
2). Pathetic attempt re brightness. And since you brought this up, I am going to take a leaf out of Charlie's book on argumentative technique........BTW, did you even get a College degree "ProfLogic" ???
(Note: I am not saying a college degree is necessary for trading, but since the "Prof" decided it was important to impress us with his academic credentials...)
Let alone the BS you were caught with here:
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=507328&highlight=doctor*#post507328

BTW I love OddTrader's searching here (the dude is a walking Google search engine)
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=750746&highlight=doctoral+thesis#post750746

I do not recall you answering that question (you do not have to of course).

Your initials are BS (OK, WS, but you know what I mean). rather appropriate me thinks.
Good day to you Sir.

 

[hans37]

Hmmm I'm still waiting for how accurate those 3 pinpoint market turns in a row were from charlie as claimed by victor on page 30 ?


victorS "I asked him his thoughts on the e-minis on three different occasions. He pinpointed where the market was headed and what the market would do when it reached those price levels.Three freaking times he nailed them with price reversals. "

Why am I not surprised at the silence so far?

 

[VictorS]

Quote from hans37:

Hmmm I'm still waiting for how accurate those 3 pinpoint market turns in a row were from charlie as claimed by victor on page 30 ?


victorS "I asked him his thoughts on the e-minis on three different occasions. He pinpointed where the market was headed and what the market would do when it reached those price levels.Three freaking times he nailed them with price reversals. "

Why am I not surprised at the silence so far?

first of all stupid ass I was ignoring you. Secondly, do as Charlie has suggested... do your own homework. Hint...check my dialouge with Charlie under my posts on 8/24/05. Like I said several times, i refer to him for clarification of reading his method. When I referred to him in that post that's in regards to HIS method. Furthermore, that isnt one of the threemarket turns you are waiting to read. Don't bother me again do your own research of the method in regards to market activity. Stop trying to cause trouble about something you have not researched. Now get off your lazy ass and work!!! Stop looking for handouts. I am not posting my private messages. I will not respond to any further comments in this thread. This thread is about determining trend not about VictorS.

P.s. I already know no matter what i post about Charlie and his method the same people will find problems with the posts. Just watch Hans37's upcoming responses....tick,tick, tick.

 

[hans37]

Quote from VictorS:

first of all stupid ass I was ignoring you.

ummm, somebody sounds bitter

Quote from VictorS:
Secondly,do your own homework. Hint...check my dialouge with Charlie under my posts on 8/24/05. Like I said several times, i refer to him for clarification of reading his method. When I referred to him in that post that's in regards to HIS method. Furthermore, that isnt one of the threemarket turns you are waiting to read.

Why would a rational person bother to research where you say I won't find the answer to my questions concerning your claims?
Besides I was just asking for some information concerning your claims. Tell me, do you research a method fully before you get any information on how much utility it may present to you first?(lol, yet you call me stupid ,go figure)

Quote from VictorS:Don't bother me again

How did I force you to read my question? Evidently you have other peculiar beliefs about how the world operates beyond trading!

Quote from VictorS:

Stop trying to cause trouble about something you have not researched. Now get off your lazy ass and work!!! Stop looking for handouts.

Asking you to be MORE specific about these generalized claims pinpointing market turns is asking for a handout ?
What are you afraid of: that I will go back in time and make money off those trades?

Quote from VictorS:
P.s. I already know no matter what i post about Charlie and his method the same people will find problems with the posts. Just watch Hans37's upcoming responses....tick,tick, tick. [/B]

So I take it ,you are either afraid, incapable or embarrassed of revealing how close to the actual turns the predictions were.


Wow , you really blew your chance at any sort of credibility!

I can't say it was surprising

 

[ptunic]

Today's chart is attached. Happy Thanksgiving!

-Taric

 

[makosgu]

Quote from ptunic:

Today's chart is attached. Happy Thanksgiving!

-Taric

What was your reason to lock profits... I didn't READ any continuation failures. Just curious!

MAK!

 

[ptunic]

Hehe I was just testing you

Sorry, I should of put in a note, the exit is not according to PL's method. I'm using a modified profit target instead of waiting for confirmed failure of the trend for various reasons though I probably need to change it back to as it was designed to be.. I agree the trend was very much intact at that point (and still is)!

-Taric

 

[Holmes]

Quote from Equalizer:

It is extremely simple for me. You Sir are a moron, for if you carefully re-read this thread, as you so point out later in your original response, you will realise that I have never really attacked your ...ahem... method, therefore I don't have to prove or disprove that this "method" works or does not. My observations have always been referring to your self-promotion tactics (guess the victims are drying up ). Bur as per usual, you attempt to divert "the heat" by attempting to force a confrontation on a different aspect, in this case "the method". I still like your use of NLP though, still reckon you missed your true calling, you should be in advertising.


And YOU accuse me of misquoting you??? Sir, I laugh at you for being so silly. My comments above relate to the bullying tactics exhibited towards any enquiring minds in your chatroom, who ever questioned you or your methods, yet your response assumes that they are failed "students" (and I use that term rather loosely, "disciples" might be more appropriate).

The quote stands. You Sir, are a bully. period.


Nice try Charles but:
1). You are wrong and perhaps it is you that should re-read this thread.
2). Pathetic attempt re brightness. And since you brought this up, I am going to take a leaf out of Charlie's book on argumentative technique........BTW, did you even get a College degree "ProfLogic" ???
(Note: I am not saying a college degree is necessary for trading, but since the "Prof" decided it was important to impress us with his academic credentials...)
Let alone the BS you were caught with here:
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=507328&highlight=doctor*#post507328

BTW I love OddTrader's searching here (the dude is a walking Google search engine)
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=750746&highlight=doctoral+thesis#post750746

I do not recall you answering that question (you do not have to of course).

Your initials are BS (OK, WS, but you know what I mean). rather appropriate me thinks.
Good day to you Sir.

A fox may lose its hair but won't lose its tricks.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=750863#post750863

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=545208#post545208

BS is appropriate. Perhaps his handle should be made into Charlie Dow, BSA (Bull Shit Artist)

Sherlock