POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

  • Single MA

    Votes: 39 22.9%
  • Dual MA crossover

    Votes: 50 29.4%
  • Trendline

    Votes: 61 35.9%
  • N-day breakout

    Votes: 20 11.8%

  • Total voters
    170
Quote from fritz_haber:

There is an old adage - "Wenn man keine Ahnung hat, dann einfach mal die Fresse halten.". You can translate it with - "If you don't know it excactly, you better be quiet."

I will tell you the real story.

The basic concepts never changed. Period. Students who say this, have not grasped the theorie.

Years ago the Prof knew that Volume Bars are better than tick bars, but there was no software with Volume Bars at that point. So what to do? He used tick charts first, but always!!! kept telling the students that at some time in the future he will move to tick charts.

It took me almost 30 minutes before I could stop laughing about the curvefitting thing ;-). That's so wrong that I won't comment it. Only one hint, the Logic is not a black box ;-).

You can trade any market with his stuff. Period!

The methodology will work with every setting of indicators and Charts ....
The settings for the indicators are like they are, because they are finetuned to work best. Period!

That's the truth. Believe it or leave it ;-).

Happy weekend,

fritz_haber

Und Sie konnen Scheisse fressen.

vital
 
Got a PM from our friend Charlie Dow.

I am respodoing here to show everyone what a kind person the Prof is, trying to shut someone up with threats.

vital-analitixs
vital-statistix
psycho-analitx


Charlie Dow wrote on 11-18-05 02:49 PM:
Such a pleasant person. I make no bones of sharing everything about me including me real name. Wish do to the same?

Bill

Anyone reading the old threads can find out your name.

If you don't see that what you are advocating is a load of shit then you are even more naive than I thought.

Can you take 10K to 1M in 3 months?

Once you can do that and it is not limited to one timeframe and it is not limited to just volume (or tick charts) and it is not limited to one symbol and it is not limited to size then you may have something to talk about. Until then I suggest you shut up with your condescending tone.

Also, once you really discover "the secret of the markets", do you realise the implications of that? Your personal security?

Because it would make the markets unstable and the government will want to shut you up, they cannot have an unstable market.
The criminals will be after you because they won't want others to get your system.
Foreign governments will be after you because they will want a piece of the pie.

Don't worry, I leave you alone. After all we need more goats in this industry that I can take the money away from. And you just help them getting releaved from their heard earned cash a lot faster.

Goodbye
 
Quote from Equalizer:

With all due respect downtickboy, ask yourself this question. If Mr Dow was really that good, why is taking time off with seminars in the USA, Singapore and now Germany - away from trading. Especially with Seminars in the US, he can't teach and trade at the same time.


Well I do not have first hand experience with it but know someone who recently attended a seminar. He told me the class was taught over the weekend and then was able to see live trading on Monday occurring in front of him. Now the part I would not have believed unless he told me was that every trade taken that day (I don't know if this was a fluke of being an exceptional day) was a winner and that 8 or 9 ES points were made. Now whether this person I know will ever get to this point is a different story. At least it provided some verification of truth that Charlie has a method that works well for him and backs up what he has been saying.
 
Quote from vital-analitix:



Bill

Anyone reading the old threads can find out your name.

If you don't see that what you are advocating is a load of shit then you are even more naive than I thought.

Can you take 10K to 1M in 3 months?

Once you can do that and it is not limited to one timeframe and it is not limited to just volume (or tick charts) and it is not limited to one symbol and it is not limited to size then you may have something to talk about. Until then I suggest you shut up with your condescending tone.

Also, once you really discover "the secret of the markets", do you realise the implications of that? Your personal security?

Because it would make the markets unstable and the government will want to shut you up, they cannot have an unstable market.
The criminals will be after you because they won't want others to get your system.
Foreign governments will be after you because they will want a piece of the pie.

Don't worry, I leave you alone. After all we need more goats in this industry that I can take the money away from. And you just help them getting releaved from their heard earned cash a lot faster.

Goodbye

I don't know if this was a serious post or not but if I had just stepped into this thread and this was the first post I read I would think you might be a little off your rocker. What you are suggesting for verification of someones trading results and the results of someone trading the market really well are a little out in left field.
 
guys,
this is really a dirty way of wasting ET space with useless uneducated guesses.

i mean if someone came along with a method & i would be genuinely interested & OPEN in adding to my current one i would do the following:

-> prove the method works, disprove it, or prove to myself it doesn't work for me (attention, this could hurt)

at least after that process an opinion could be respected.

but hey, maybe this is just too much common sense for most traders, so i'll leave it at that

relaxed weekend,
cosmic
 
Quote from vital-analitix:

Und Sie konnen Scheisse fressen.

vital

So sweet.

What about my comments? All are true.

By the way I haven't attacked you personally, you have. Is that your behavior if you can't prove someone wrong or if someone showed that you are wrong?
 
Quote from vital-analitix:

Got a PM from our friend Charlie Dow.

I am respodoing here to show everyone what a kind person the Prof is, trying to shut someone up with threats.

vital-analitixs
vital-statistix
psycho-analitx


...


Can you take 10K to 1M in 3 months?

...



Posting PMs shows a lot about you, too. Regardless of what is in the PMs.

Can he take 10k to 1M in 3 months?

Wherefore do you state such comments? Can you? Prove it to me.
Does it say anything about the quality of that trader? No!
 
Quote from vital-analitix:

Got a PM from our friend Charlie Dow.

I am respodoing here to show everyone what a kind person the Prof is, trying to shut someone up with threats.

vital-analitixs
vital-statistix
psycho-analitx




Bill

Anyone reading the old threads can find out your name.

If you don't see that what you are advocating is a load of shit then you are even more naive than I thought.

Can you take 10K to 1M in 3 months?

Once you can do that and it is not limited to one timeframe and it is not limited to just volume (or tick charts) and it is not limited to one symbol and it is not limited to size then you may have something to talk about. Until then I suggest you shut up with your condescending tone.

Also, once you really discover "the secret of the markets", do you realise the implications of that? Your personal security?

Because it would make the markets unstable and the government will want to shut you up, they cannot have an unstable market.
The criminals will be after you because they won't want others to get your system.
Foreign governments will be after you because they will want a piece of the pie.

Don't worry, I leave you alone. After all we need more goats in this industry that I can take the money away from. And you just help them getting releaved from their heard earned cash a lot faster.

Goodbye

As stated . . . such a lovely person to hide in the net. I ask a question and it's a threat. I bet if I sneeze it will be read as a pass.
 
Personally guys I vote to end this. Poor Bill's thread got hijacked and I feel partially responsible. My only desire was to add to the thread not overwhelm it. This is the reason I changed the moniker in the first place.

Have a wonderful weekend and go hang out with the family. Go prepare for the "Bird & Ball" later this week!
 
Quote from Charlie Dow:

I do trade and teach. I trade at the Seminars . . . in Real Time . . . with a real feed . . . and real people.
I can teach trade and travel and the same time . . . multi tasking.



whatever i think about your methods, one thing is for sure---- you have quite the sense of humour !

i mean sincerely without a hint of sarcasm.

surfer:)
 
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