POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

POLL - Futures: How do you determine the trend?

  • Single MA

    Votes: 39 22.9%
  • Dual MA crossover

    Votes: 50 29.4%
  • Trendline

    Votes: 61 35.9%
  • N-day breakout

    Votes: 20 11.8%

  • Total voters
    170
Charlie Dow,

thanks for all your contribution to this community. I really appreciate it.
Just looked at the Euro again and it's so sad that there are no such things as trends, I wonder how I ever can make my pips :D.

I better grap me another portion of Tiramisu ;-).

Happy trading,

fritz_haber
 
Quote from cosmic:

morning charlie :)

tradestation has the bars, too - but they are not accurate enough, because big lot trades are added completely to the currentbar instead of splitting them up. But it depends on how fast your chart is....

i also heard that the newest neuroshell release will feature them & they are working on adding exactly the contract bars that are correct split up.

over all, yes the argument hits home - i mean hey, we still trade contracts :p

& i also never heard of any market communicating, *gosh* its 10:02 ??? ----- i better move, because its time to do so :cool:

happy trading,
cosmic

Cosmic, thanks, thats the other one . . . Neuroshell. Tradestation's contract or volume bars are are built inconsistenly so you are correct, they are no better than tick charts.
 
Quote from cosmic:

sometimes a picture is worth more than a thousand words....
you see a long term volume chart of the ES cont contract.

for clarification i plotted a tool on this chart, that marks the significant swing high / low pivots & thus making it real easy to see the overall structure.

one can clearly see how the market moves from "low to high tide" & back to establish a trend.

of course there is more to trading that trend profitably....

happy trading,
cosmic

Cosmic?, did you get any of that Euro this morning 114 pips in an hour from the Prime confirmed bottom? Trading is a wonderful place with wonderful people thoroughout . . . and Christmas is coming . . .
 
Quote from FredBloggs:

which trend are you girls talking about?

primary, intermediate, minor?

there could well be different methods for each.

girls?

Female traders?

In a trend discussion?

Female traders do not exist . . . they are a figment of those silly trend followers imagination.
 
Quote from Charlie Dow:

...if you want to PUT FORTH SOME EFFORT here at ET all of the information is here at no charge and you don't have to take a Seminar. For those that want to fast track the learning process they can go the other route.

I put the information out here on ET for those individuals that wanted to learn an alternative method of trading that was visually verifiable and that, for the most part, couldn't afford to, for whatever reason, spend time in a Seminar classroom. They still had to work for it because all the pieces were scattered in here but were here none the less. When did having options become a point of ridicule? When did "giving back" become the brunt of a joke? Watching the Market in Real-time and trading is part of the Seminar that ETer's don't get. If someone wants that advantage they can have that.

No one forces you or anyone to do something they don't want to do. If you want to learn what I teach . . . dig through the archives here and figure it out.
Interesting that you consider scattered pieces of "information" as a form of "giving back." When you give to charity, do you throw coins that the unfortunate have to run after to catch? If you want to "give back" then by all means do so. But let us not mistake that with what you are doing. You seem to be giving just enough "information" to the needy here in order to pique their interest. The only question is, at what point will some of them say enough is enough, I don't want to chase my tail looking for - and piecing together - scattered clues anymore, how much for the course? That's what it's all about, isn't it, Charlie? And that's fine. That's marketing. But it is not "giving back."

Quote from Charlie Dow:

...if what I taught was BS those two attorneys in my class would have eaten me for lunch and I wouldn't be able to survive in my home town.
Not necessarily. It depends on what you promised them. If you only promised them a hot meal and a seminar, then they would not likely have an actionable claim. However, if you promised them that it was "impossible" for the market to immediately go against their entries, well, then your life would get a little bit more interesting.
 
Thunderdog,

most people don't see a great opportunity, because they only see that they have to work first.
All information Charlie has reffered to is spread out an ET and on other sites. The only thing one has to do is some work and apply common sense to the information.

Some have done the work, some have not and will probably never do. It's the sad thing with most of the traders - everything has to be instant (coffee, sex, trading ...). If it does not jump out of the monitor and bites them in their face immediately the chances are high that they give up. We both know that this is not the way it works.
Just my experience.

Happy trading,

fritz_haber
 
Thanks Charlie, thanks Fritz

(I had no idea eSignal actually is really useful)

To Victor S:

I have a Market Profile background, I think Dalton's way to define trends makes sense.
That implies differentiating between the bulk of volume moving or not moving and single spikes (call them oscillation if you want), that are governed by their own rules.

I do believe in trends (underlying forces of supply and demand). It doesn't make any sense to measure a single price you happen to like though.
You have to catch the center of gravity and that's not that easy.
 
Quote from Charlie Dow:

Cosmic?, did you get any of that Euro this morning 114 pips in an hour from the Prime confirmed bottom? Trading is a wonderful place with wonderful people thoroughout . . . and Christmas is coming . . .

oh trading indeed is, especially if you look at the swings in the euro - this is not even funny anymore. :eek:

it has been trying to create that longer term bottom since some days, but after it was confirmed these longs are real easy.

though there was also a good counter chance today around 10 est, just a matter of your comfort zone I think.


happy trading -
cosmic
 
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