POLL: Does Pa(b)st Prime have his Head & Shoulders up his Bottom formation?
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I don't know, are you lying?
Oy vey, it didn't take long for the 100K bet to come out...
You really do have something to prove, don't you?
Oy vey, it didn't take long for the 100K bet to come out...
You really do have something to prove, don't you?
Wow. You and T-Dog really must be short on life options to dedicate such time to this thread. I wouldn't take a minute to piss on you guys if you were on fire.
You're missing two points. One a gambler should well understand.
I'll get the TOS crap out of the way first. In my view, for a long time member to provide a link or two to his own site is not a violation-particularly to a site that isn't competition to ET itself. Posting a link, letting other ET'ers know Ecktrade exists is not what the TOS is concerned about. You might want to spend time out of P&R to see bona fide spamming. Until Joe Blow in post #1 titles a thread "Ecktrade Changed My Life" there's very little TOS violating going on here.
As far as audited records. Don't you see the duplicity when coupled with this statement " I have also seen some people who could trade their own account who failed miserably when trading the money of others."?
Yes I could post an audited track record from the past three years that's stunning. It would raise me a SHIT LOAD of money. Then why don't I do it? Because it would be MISLEADING. Not for the reason you suggest-part of my 3 years was on a split so OPM isn't a factor-but the bet I made yesterday has NOTHING TO DO with the bet I'll make to-morrow. The last thing I want is people going into the pool thinking "this guy is great I'm going all in you should see his numbers." I want people to go in thinking, "I hope this guy is ok but I'll probably regret cutting him a check." That's the idea behind trading live. The track record then becomes a living organic thing-people will SEE ME STRUGGLE with all of the decisions us traders make and then decide based on REAL TIME information if this is for them. That's why the 2k buy in as well. Why not let small guys learn something, buy a lotto ticket and if it doesn't work out-I'd like to think I'll at least keep from going to zero-at least they can say it was worth it, "I learned what not to do watching that nut-case." For me to show 06-09 and then have someone put up a 100k in life savings for me to then drop 75k is a guilt trip I just don't need. I'm focused on the now moment not some Corn trade from 2006. If the performance is there I'll have a thousand clients at 5k each some day. No one need to worry about ruining someone's life and I can trade without all that pressure.
And yea the site is ugly and stupidly written. I need to streamline it. Too many cooks in the kitchen....
You're missing two points. One a gambler should well understand.
I'll get the TOS crap out of the way first. In my view, for a long time member to provide a link or two to his own site is not a violation-particularly to a site that isn't competition to ET itself. Posting a link, letting other ET'ers know Ecktrade exists is not what the TOS is concerned about. You might want to spend time out of P&R to see bona fide spamming. Until Joe Blow in post #1 titles a thread "Ecktrade Changed My Life" there's very little TOS violating going on here.
As far as audited records. Don't you see the duplicity when coupled with this statement " I have also seen some people who could trade their own account who failed miserably when trading the money of others."?
Yes I could post an audited track record from the past three years that's stunning. It would raise me a SHIT LOAD of money. Then why don't I do it? Because it would be MISLEADING. Not for the reason you suggest-part of my 3 years was on a split so OPM isn't a factor-but the bet I made yesterday has NOTHING TO DO with the bet I'll make to-morrow. The last thing I want is people going into the pool thinking "this guy is great I'm going all in you should see his numbers." I want people to go in thinking, "I hope this guy is ok but I'll probably regret cutting him a check." That's the idea behind trading live. The track record then becomes a living organic thing-people will SEE ME STRUGGLE with all of the decisions us traders make and then decide based on REAL TIME information if this is for them. That's why the 2k buy in as well. Why not let small guys learn something, buy a lotto ticket and if it doesn't work out-I'd like to think I'll at least keep from going to zero-at least they can say it was worth it, "I learned what not to do watching that nut-case." For me to show 06-09 and then have someone put up a 100k in life savings for me to then drop 75k is a guilt trip I just don't need. I'm focused on the now moment not some Corn trade from 2006. If the performance is there I'll have a thousand clients at 5k each some day. No one need to worry about ruining someone's life and I can trade without all that pressure.
And yea the site is ugly and stupidly written. I need to streamline it. Too many cooks in the kitchen....
Pabst thank you for always being honest!! And for any newbies out there, if you wanna learn here is a good opportunity with a reputable trader. Sorry if my comments hung you out to dry but i know damn well you are an unreal trader, unlike your D-bag detractors.
I would invest in PABST in a second except that i am highly profitable trading my own money, however for anyone who is new and looking to invest some SPECULATIVE MONEY, and gain an education IN DOING SO, i would suggest you, go for it, PABST is for real.
I'd be an ungrateful prick to not be thankful for your nice words BUT you sound like you're on my payroll. 
Seriously, thanx. And that's to everyone earlier on the thread as well......
Seriously, thanx. And that's to everyone earlier on the thread as well......
I have nothing I need to prove to you or anyone on this site.
I supposed if what you think or believe mattered, I might feel differently.
But it doesn't, so I don't...
Now, if could try and address Pabst's violation of the TOS, and the unethical nature of it, the cheesy website, etc....
I supposed if what you think or believe mattered, I might feel differently.
But it doesn't, so I don't...
Now, if could try and address Pabst's violation of the TOS, and the unethical nature of it, the cheesy website, etc....
I have already heard your rationalization of violation of rule 6 of the T.O.S.
Rule 6:
6) Advertisements and solicitations of any kind are strictly prohibited unless you are a paying site sponsor. As a person who does not represent one of our site sponsors, you are not to solicit our members with any type of commercial offer, or advertise your business through your public posts, private messages, profile page, or file attachments. This includes, but is not limited to, posting your phone or fax number(s) and posting any URLs or hyperlinks to your commercial web site(s) or email account(s). Elite Trader and its agents may remove or edit any posted content, without prior notice, that contains unauthorized advertisements or solicitations. Elite Trader may, without prior notice, immediately terminate your membership upon discovery of any unauthorized advertising or solicitation.
"As far as audited records. Don't you see the duplicity when coupled with this statement " I have also seen some people who could trade their own account who failed miserably when trading the money of others."?"
I see no duplicity at all. It is true that some people who can trade their own account fail when increasing size of a fund or the mere fact that they are trading other people's money, for various reasons. It is also true that some can trade for others but not themselves.
Without any documented track record of your own account, then you don't have squat I.M.O. Or sure you will get some fools to throw you 2K, but that is a fund manager? You talk about how well you do, how much money you have...yet you are someone chasing 2K or 5K accounts? LOL! Laughable really...
"And yea the site is ugly and stupidly written. I need to streamline it. Too many cooks in the kitchen.... "
Tell me that when you state on your sight that certain things on your sight are copyrighted, that you have actually gone through the legal process to get them copyrighted...
I doubt you have even gotten any type of proper business licensing or regulatory work done to have a registered fund with the CFTC...
http://www.cftc.gov/newsroom/enforcementpressreleases/2009/pr5596-09.html
It takes almost nothing to get a domain name and a cheap and cheesy cookie cutter website these days...
Rule 6:
6) Advertisements and solicitations of any kind are strictly prohibited unless you are a paying site sponsor. As a person who does not represent one of our site sponsors, you are not to solicit our members with any type of commercial offer, or advertise your business through your public posts, private messages, profile page, or file attachments. This includes, but is not limited to, posting your phone or fax number(s) and posting any URLs or hyperlinks to your commercial web site(s) or email account(s). Elite Trader and its agents may remove or edit any posted content, without prior notice, that contains unauthorized advertisements or solicitations. Elite Trader may, without prior notice, immediately terminate your membership upon discovery of any unauthorized advertising or solicitation.
"As far as audited records. Don't you see the duplicity when coupled with this statement " I have also seen some people who could trade their own account who failed miserably when trading the money of others."?"
I see no duplicity at all. It is true that some people who can trade their own account fail when increasing size of a fund or the mere fact that they are trading other people's money, for various reasons. It is also true that some can trade for others but not themselves.
Without any documented track record of your own account, then you don't have squat I.M.O. Or sure you will get some fools to throw you 2K, but that is a fund manager? You talk about how well you do, how much money you have...yet you are someone chasing 2K or 5K accounts? LOL! Laughable really...
"And yea the site is ugly and stupidly written. I need to streamline it. Too many cooks in the kitchen.... "
Tell me that when you state on your sight that certain things on your sight are copyrighted, that you have actually gone through the legal process to get them copyrighted...
I doubt you have even gotten any type of proper business licensing or regulatory work done to have a registered fund with the CFTC...
http://www.cftc.gov/newsroom/enforcementpressreleases/2009/pr5596-09.html
It takes almost nothing to get a domain name and a cheap and cheesy cookie cutter website these days...
What I lost in 2005 at V-Trader wouldn't hit the list as one of my 100 worst days. I've made 18-20x that amount since.
I'm not poo-pooing the graveness of that experience. I lost in 2005 a little more than what I made that year in interest income. I find your smugness amusing because you'd swap assets with me in a heartbeat but the fact is nearly 3/4's of a million in Treasuries-I was in a Livermore type trust/unbreakable- provided me with little above sustainable if not poverty income from 2002-2005. Plus I wasted the token free cash I had banked on small but consistent trading losses and politics. So I'm the first to say I'm fortunate-not lucky because I've made great trades these last couple of years but you need the markets and this is night and day to the old environment.
I'm not poo-pooing the graveness of that experience. I lost in 2005 a little more than what I made that year in interest income. I find your smugness amusing because you'd swap assets with me in a heartbeat but the fact is nearly 3/4's of a million in Treasuries-I was in a Livermore type trust/unbreakable- provided me with little above sustainable if not poverty income from 2002-2005. Plus I wasted the token free cash I had banked on small but consistent trading losses and politics. So I'm the first to say I'm fortunate-not lucky because I've made great trades these last couple of years but you need the markets and this is night and day to the old environment.
Please direct me to that admission.