To be fair, Mag Light creates his own stools. I just wish he didn't post them here.
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More cultural anthropology. Why don't you go research the origins of cultural anthropology and who created it? You will then know where all of your pseudo-scientific Marxist ideas come from. Do you know who Franz Boas is? How about Ashley Montagu? Gene Weltfish? Jared Diamond? Stephen Jay Gould? No? Never heard of these people? Didn't think so.
The fucking arrogance of people like you astounds me.
Sure, it is the jewish creators of cultural anthropology that influence the gullible minds of white youth, while the thoroughly "wise" people like you know the truth about jews and their influence on world history.
Keep telling yourself that. The thought that some inbred redneck reading whitecivilrights.com could know more about the world than I do is laughable.
I don't believe in american exceptionalism. I believe countries rise and fall whether they do "the right" things. If they do them they prosper, if they don't they fall. To think that one country is inherently "special" is silly.
In any society, individuals in the (ultra) conservative circles believe it is important to indoctrinate youth with love of one's country above all else. In the case of U.S, when there are groups that challenge that notion, they are labeled as "unpatriotic", "liberal", "blame america first". I concern myself with knowing the truth above all, and I inherently distrust anything that has a lot of patriotism attached to it. The reason for that is patriotism(rabid patriotism and jingoism) has always been used to unite (manipulate) people towards a goal desired by the "elite".
If I listened to fox news, I would have to believe that US was founded on the values of liberty in an immaculate way, that slavery was simply something to forget, that US, above all is committed to spreading liberty and justice to the world. I would also have to believe that americans are inherently more hard working, smarter, etc.
In reality, there is a lot of shady things concerning the founding of the republic. US is an empire and the Iraq War had nothing to do with bringing liberty to the Iraqis.
There are consequences to rabid patriotism. If a child grows up with a ridiculous notion of inherent national superiority, he/she will have a distorted view of the world. US was not ordained by god for greatness.
I hate former supreme court justice O'Oconnor for giving W the 2000 election, but her views on diversity are spot on. If a group of people were deprived of rights to property, freedom, education, enjoyment of life for an extended period of time, those actions will have long term consequences.
A college educated individual is not "yo mama man" individual.
This is actually a good post. Measured and in some respects centrist. Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm surprised considering your views on gun control in the form of a total ban.
Which leads me to believe that more so than an issue with guns, you have an issue with right wingers that support gun onwership. The issue you have with right wingers is such that it appears to make you ignore the facts about gun onwership and gun crime. It's as if since the majority of conservatives support gun ownership, and since you find conservative values and policies to be wrong, gun ownership must also be wrong - even though you can't prove why.
Do not try to shove my nuanced positions into a tiny hole. It is not about hating conservatives and everything they stand for.
People are welcome to arm themselves with muskets. The founding fathers did not see the firepower available to the average person now. They wanted citizenry to be armed to repel any revanchism from great britain.
regular folk cannot replace police as law enforcement. Whether my neighbor has a gun or not does not make me any safer.
The thought process of people on the other side is that hispanics and blacks commit disproportionate amount of gun violence since they are inherently savages. No effort is made to understand the underlying root of the problem.
There will always be troubled youth and madmen. In America, they can be armed with guns.
It is not hard to see the future of many metro areas in the US 20 years from now. It ain't pretty. If you look up that Orlando sentinel article I presented. Murders doubled or more than doubled compared to late 90s while the population did not. You draw your own conclusions. Threats of death penalty and 10-20-life did not prevent it. Neither did lax gun laws.
Gun control in the US is inevitable, it will just take a few decades to get there. Once people observe a never ending stream of gun homicides their patience will start to wear thin.
Excellent commentary, IShopAtPublix.
You'll have to forgive that as it's hard to see where you are coming from and what motivates your illogical thinking on gun banning. Gun banning in and of itself isn't illogical. It's your reasoning to support the concept that is. It suggests an almost philosophical or emotional motivation. You can't fault me for seeing it that way when none of your arguments make any real sense which can be backed up with tangible proof.
If you have something that's rational, I won't deny it. I don't wave party flags and see red when the opposition has anything to say. If what you have to say is sound and rational, I'll agree that it is, even if I don't like it or it's implications.
That's a disengenuous argument since if they had guns similiar to modern guns, they would have referred to them. And if swords were the highest weaponry of the day, they would have referred to that.
Regular folk supplement law enforcement when they act responsibly and perform their civic duty in reporting crime and deterring it. And a gun owner doesn't own a gun for your sake, they own it for theirs. However, should the need arise and they are within their lawful right to defend you, I doubt you would mind if they took the liberty. Only a moron would object.
Masquerading Stormfront members thoughts and rhetoric aside, banning guns would have almost ZERO affect on these communities since they acquire them illegally and/or on the black market.
I don't make a judgment on these communities other than to call out stats and facts about them. The "why" is a complicated discussion that requires honest assessments of how these things came to be. Some of which is external of the community and some internal.
Unless law enforcement is more proactive about enforcing the LAW. To their credit, they often do confiscate firearms from those who would be a harm to society before things happen.
Laws have no bearing on lawless individuals.
Gun control has been on the books for more the 70 years. What you mean is banning guns altogether. Won't happen. Because all the countries who have taken this route, haven't decreased their violent crime after having done it. In the US, there will just be more constraints or whoops to jump through to acquire guns lawfully which will have ZERO bearing on lawless individuals. They never have.
One cop for every five people with an adjunct precinct on every street would seriously lessen the need for firearm ownership for self defense.
You read what you want to read. My positions are nuanced. Many pages ago in this thread I referenced the "Swiss way" as a possibility. Which you get to buy a shotgun for protection but concealed permits are almost impossible to get.
NRA does not want gun registration, they want purchasers of guns to experience as little hassle as possible. Now why would somebody need 2 semi automatics as Virginia Tech shooter purchased? Why not 50?
Gun production needs to be strictly controlled, gun registration programs need to be in place and people should only be able to buy shotguns/rifles for home protection/recreation. Period.
I don't like things the way virginia, florida, texas do things. Rules concerning firearms need to be strict and uniform across the country.
The way it is now, anyone can purchase anything through regular channels by using a strawman. Our safety gets subjugated to the needs of NRA, gun shows, gun makers.
It's the faint of brain posters with whom I take issue. And there you are.
Idiot, YOU INVENTED NOTHING, DO NOT POCKET ACHIEVEMENTS OF NEWTON, FARADAY, ETC. AS ACHEIEVEMENTS OF THE WHITE RACE TO BE PUT IN YOUR POCKET
A good chunk of US population is white trash, superior to nothing and no one. Even more so, some want to teach our children "creationism" as "intelligent design" and destroy science altogether.
Like I said before, certain events in history could be profound in their long term consequences. If a society did not progress beyond hunter-gathering stage, it had no chance in hell of experiencing progress.
You are making the same mistake as brits did when they thought indians would never be able to rule themselves without british help. As it turned out, a class of people educated according to western standards emerged and was the driving force behind independence movement.
People are shaped by the system. Systems tend to be self perpetuating in good and bad ways.