Poll: Americans split on health care as Obama approval sinks.

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i know several people who use the va even though they could afford insurance. they both say the get great care and seldom wait. next argument.
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Quote from skylr33:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also know several people that use the VA. And guess what??? I also use it, and it's absolutely horrible!!!!!!!!!!!! Most will agree that the care received by the Veteran's Administration is about as bad as it get's. You want to talk about the VA providing quality health care? LOL!!!!! The people you know that think they provide good care must be related to members of congress. LOL!!!!!
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No, most would not agree. The V.A. has attended to my health care needs for many years and mostly done a splendid job. Same for the many veterans that I know. This is not to say anything about Obama's proposed health care, as I have no idea how that would work out in practice after what I'm sure would be a very bumpy start. But I'm sorry your experience with the V.A. has been negative. Then again, I know many folks who have had horrible experiences with private insurance companies overseeing their private health care. I'm not sure which is worse, the government between me and my doctor or an insurance company bean-counter making the decisions for me and my doctor. Anyway, my experience with the various V.A. hospitals that I've gone to has been very good -- extremely inexpensive prescriptions, moderate waits for appointments, dedicated doctors and nurses (and volunteers), and the latest medical equipment. And, no, I'm not related to any member of Congress although I understand they also receive superb gov't health care.
 
I hope you guys realize that this thread has nothing to do with health care, like so many, simply another love or hate Obama thread.

Medicare is probably one of the good plans run by the government. VA is, and has always been, a mixed bag. But neither has anything to do with any health care plan proposed by dems or reps.

Insurance companies, Hospital groups, sure they're going to lobby. Follow the money.



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I agree. It's a very complicated issue. Opinions are divided. Obama was going to be about a new way of handling things, less partisan, more bringing us all together.

So why the insane rush? Voting on bills that no one has even had time to read? Why not hash this out in a mature fashion and see if there is a consensus position? Why rush through an extreme plan in a highly partisan fashion?

Unless of course it is all about politics and control. And everything Obama said during the campaign was just more politician's lies.
 
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also know several people that use the VA. And guess what??? I also use it, and it's absolutely horrible!!!!!!!!!!!! Most will agree that the care received by the Veteran's Administration is about as bad as it get's. You want to talk about the VA providing quality health care? LOL!!!!! The people you know that think they provide good care must be related to members of congress. LOL!!!!!
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My Father cusses the VA every chance he gets. Its horrible. They kill more people then they help.
 
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My Father cusses the VA every chance he gets. Its horrible. They kill more people then they help.
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Bush had 8 years to improve it


Bush and the re pubs had 8 years to come up with their own health plan
 
Quote from insider trading:

My Grandfather had private insurance as part of his retirement package,he voluntary gave it up and switched to Medicare
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That's the point. It was HIS choice.
 
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And under the Democrats plan you will have the choice to keep your current ins or get the governments insurance
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Oh, to be so young and dumb, ya gotta wear shades.
 
Quote from bugscoe:

Oh, to be so young and dumb, ya gotta wear shades.
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Reminds me of the 2008 Republican ticket.(What was their health plan again ?)




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