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[Nine_Ender]

Hahahahaha another argument where you are simply out of your league, Boeing responded to the fact that the Canadian government is subsidizing businesses, just like the lumber and dairy industry, if you want free trade, (Which i want) get the government the fuck out of these businesses. There is only so long the U.S. will continue to spread their legs while the rest of the world fucks them.

The U.S. can no longer afford to be the worlds bailout, we live in a global economy, if Canada wants to subsidize businesses then we have no argument when Trump rips up nafta. Free trade is free, it doesnt include hundreds of millions in government subsidies.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Canada and the US are basically trade neutral and the US subsidizes many of it's businesses including Boeing. Almost every Canada-US dispute that has gone to a neutral court Canada has won. The US currently benefits from below market prices for Oil and Electricity from Canada; it might be time that stops.

I am supporting of Canada dropping out of Nafta and pursuing the shifting of parts of our current trade with China and Europe. This seems inevitable under Trump. Bombardier is already looking at for buyers outside of the US. The Canadian federal government has a recent deal to buy jets from Boeing for the military and I expect they'll cancel that deal imminently.

 

[Max E.]

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Canada and the US are basically trade neutral and the US subsidizes many of it's businesses including Boeing. Almost every Canada-US dispute that has gone to a neutral court Canada has won. The US currently benefits from below market prices for Oil and Electricity from Canada; it might be time that stops.

I am supporting of Canada dropping out of Nafta and pursuing the shifting of parts of our current trade with China and Europe. This seems inevitable under Trump. Bombardier is already looking at for buyers outside of the US. The Canadian federal government has a recent deal to buy jets from Boeing for the military and I expect they'll cancel that deal imminently.

Hahahaha so misinformed, yeah we really send them our "energy" we send them oil and then they refine it and mark it up and send it back to us, because there is less regulations in the states, we pay 25% more at the pump then they do in the states thx to big government, thats a brilliant fucking plan thx to liberals, nice work Canada.

Yep no trade deficit, only 15 billion when we have 1/10th the size of the economy, if we were equal sizes it would be 150 billion, do that over ten countries and its 1.5 trillion, but yep no issue there.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Trade War? Bring it on.

I sure hope the Canadian Maple Syrup cartel doesn't collude and put together a plan to bring down the American economy.

And yes, I understand that the Brits are threatening the same thing in reaction to the bombadier issue. You really think the Brits are looking to offend the US or enter into a trade war with the US right as they are leaving the EU and are in desparate need to find trading partners elsewhere?

Fortunately, this is just a spat. The US and the Brits are friends and we will work out something- no problem- and the more the eu sticks it to them, the more we will backfill with trade agreements with them. Remember, it was Margaret Thatcher who advised that the Brits should throw their lot in with the Yanks rather than the EU. Would have loved to see Maggie and Baby Justin interact. At least one of them would have had balls and it would not have been Baby Justin.

We will also work out things with the Canadians. If we don't continue to look out for you, who will?

Howz that illegal immigration thing coming along? Word is that Baby Justin has taken down the welcome mat. Funny how a dose of reality can do that. I guess borders aren't just for ugly american neanderthals anymore.
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/canadian-pm-justin-trudeau-changes-his-tune-asylum-seekers

It's fine for a keyboard jockey like you to post a bunch of bs about how a trade war with Canada doesn't matter. Meanwhile, millions of Americans depend on that trade for their livelihood. Canada looks after itself just fine, but the whole idea of trade deals is they benefit both parties and sources confirm there are huge benefits to both parties due to nafta and other similar deals. For example, Dallas' biggest trade partner is Toronto; one aspect of that is aerospace.

The bit about the UK being a "friend" of the US is kind of funny in this context. Canada has a much closer relationship with the UK.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

The US currently benefits from below market prices for Oil and Electricity from Canada; it might be time that stops.

Heh, if you want to go down that road, go ahead and make our day. Canadian oil quotes cheaper but it is about two dollars a barrel more than venezuelan oil when you calculate the landed costs, ie, include the cost of transportation. You can be replaced easily with american oil or one of the renegade non opec producers. In addition, lots of think the price of oil is too cheap and is suppressing american production and we would be more than glad to up our production even if it cost more. In case you have not checked lately, the Canadian economy is held up by sale of oil to the Americanos rather than by the sale of maple syrup.

Don;t be surprised either if the fee for putting canadian oil through the keystone pipeline suddenly gets "adjusted" if you mess with us or it might not get built at all- all phases anyway.

Further, in regard to your assertion that canada has won all trade disputes with the US, keep in mind that that was based on the interpretation of previous agreements. Dont be surprised if the language in new agreements "fixes" the previous giveaway agreements.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Hahahaha so misinformed, yeah we really send them our "energy" we send them oil and then they refine it and mark it up and send it back to us, because there is less regulations in the states, we pay 25% more at the pump then they do in the states thx to big government, thats a brilliant fucking plan thx to liberals, nice work Canada.

There is nothing justified about the Boeing action once one looks at the details. All it does is kill free trade of any type. I'm be happy to see Canada pull out of Nafta and play hardball with the Americans. We are in the best position historically then we have ever been to do so. Our economy is actually running stronger then the US economy right now, and beyond the bluster the US cannot afford to create job losses by killing trade with Canada.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

It's fine for a keyboard jockey like you to post a bunch of bs about how a trade war with Canada doesn't matter. Meanwhile, millions of Americans depend on that trade for their livelihood. Canada looks after itself just fine, but the whole idea of trade deals is they benefit both parties and sources confirm there are huge benefits to both parties due to nafta and other similar deals. For example, Dallas' biggest trade partner is Toronto; one aspect of that is aerospace.

The bit about the UK being a "friend" of the US is kind of funny in this context. Canada has a much closer relationship with the UK.

Canada's gdp is about the same as or slightly less than California. We acknowledge your importance along with the rest of our states. If you want to get uppity and talk ballsy about a trade war or messing with oil supplies to the US, then I say, again, go for it. As the saying goes: "when the US gets a cold, Canada gets pneumonia." Go for it.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Heh, if you want to go down that road, go ahead and make our day. Canadian oil quotes cheaper but it is about two dollars a barrel more than venezuelan oil when you calculate the landed costs, ie, include the cost of transportation. You can be replaced easily with american oil or one of the renegade non opec producers. In addition, lots of think the price of oil is too cheap and is suppressing american production and we would be more than glad to up our production even if it cost more. In case you have not checked lately, the Canadian economy is held up by sale of oil to the Americanos rather than by the sale of maple syrup.

Don;t be surprised either if the fee for putting canadian oil through the keystone pipeline suddenly gets "adjusted" if you mess with us or it might not get built at all- all phases anyway.

Further, in regard to your assertion that canada has won all trade disputes with the US, keep in mind that that was based on the interpretation of previous agreements. Dont be surprised if the language in new agreements "fixes" the previous giveaway agreements.

You are misinformed. The strongest economy at the moment is Ontario and we have little or no Oil business. Oil is Alberta's thing. Meanwhile, Quebec sells you cheap power all the time and that can stop.

With respect to the agreements, Canada is prepared to end Nafta if the neutral courts are not used. We have walked away from trade talks in the past over this very issue. We can walk again and likely will. Then you will see various American communities with heavy trade with Canada ratchet up the need to cooperate.

It seems inevitable given the stubbornness of the US under Trump that we just increase our trade with China and Europe ( a new trade deal was signed earlier this year ) and take any short term lumps on reduced trade with the US. I welcome such a move myself. I remain convinced that we are in a far better position to weather such problems then you are at the moment. The US economy seems fragile and your nation seems less resilient in hard times.

What ever occurs, I'm fine with it. All the bluster from keyboard jockeys or Trump himself matters little to me.

 

[Nine_Ender]

Canada's gdp is about the same as or slightly less than California. We acknowledge your important along with the rest of our states. If you want to get uppity and talk ballsy about a trade war or messing with oil supplies to the US, then I say, again, go for it. As the saying goes: "when the US, gets a cold, Canada gets pneumonia." Go for it.

That's the thing though, you don't acknowledge we are important, and because of that Canada will gradually take another path. The only one getting uppity here is you, but the term condescending fits better. Trump and Boeing may feel that slapping on 220% tariffs is good business and being a good neighbor, but we are far too educated and capable a nation to accept that in the slightest.

If there is a trade war, it's on the US and Trump.

 

[Max E.]

There is nothing justified about the Boeing action once one looks at the details. All it does is kill free trade of any type. I'm be happy to see Canada pull out of Nafta and play hardball with the Americans. We are in the best position historically then we have ever been to do so. Our economy is actually running stronger then the US economy right now, and beyond the bluster the US cannot afford to create job losses by killing trade with Canada.

hahaha yeah canada is going to pull out of NAFTA and shoot ourselves in the dick, another fantastic argument, if we dont like what BA (boeing) is doing, there is an instant solution, cut off all government money to bombardier.

Guarantee it would be 1:1 after that, so why arent you petitioning Trudeau to cut off Bombardier?

Oh wait a minute Bombardier is in Quebec, the swing province, lol forgot about that, thats the reason why no one will ever stop the cheese, particularly not that pansy trudeau.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

You are misinformed. The strongest economy at the moment is Ontario and we have little or no Oil business. Oil is Alberta's thing. Meanwhile, Quebec sells you cheap power all the time and that can stop.

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Okay, well let me give you a little hint cowboy. The united states uses a pantload of oil and we get 40% of it from canada. So if you think it is not major to your economy just because Ontario is not dependent on it, then that's fine off on your planet I guess. And that Canadian oil is now oil that we can easily get somewhere else, including our own reserves and at a good price too so you have no stranglehold there. Here is a little question for you: Does the price of Canadian dollar fluctuate with the price of oil or with the price of maple syrup? Might want to think that through when underestimate the importance.

In regard, Quebec selling cheap power, and your suggestion that that can stop, again, go for it. You will find that their price was based on our demand but also their need to sell it, eh? After all, they would be selling it in Canada if they had a market, eh? So if you want to blow that leg off too- go for it. Also, Quebec is a separate nation under the Meech Lake Accord. We will deal with them on that and it is none of your business. We are on as good terms with the Quebecois as they are with the rest of Canada or better. Oh, I see. Ottawa is going to tell Quebec who they can and cannot sell power too.. giggle.......good frigging luck with that.

Maybe you want to translate this sign for the others....giggle...nevermind.