If they find the shooter, that video could poison the jury pool - maybe help get the guy off.
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Police Brutality In Philadephia In Beating Of Suspects
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Quote from acronym:
Not at all, after all, if a suspect cant be beaten, physically intimidated, tortured or threatened into a confession for something they may not have done, well, the whole system would fall apart, the paperwork of these wonderfull folk would pile up to the extent that....well, its possible they couldnt do their job, if they followed everything they were supposed to do, to the letter.
Whatever that is.....
I agree.
The only way I see it changing - the public need to flip those cameras right back in the face of Government whose so eagerly crammed them in ours.
Not sure if Cops can even be charged with crimes by the public. They're above the law, of course.
The new High Priest Guild - highschool dropouts and PTSD vets with a flare for psychopathy and face stomping.
We're in good hands.
Quote from achilles28:
I agree.
The only way I see it changing - the public need to flip those cameras right back in the face of Government whose so eagerly crammed them in ours.
Not sure if Cops can even be charged with crimes by the public. They're above the law, of course.
The new High Priest Guild - highschool dropouts and PTSD vets with a flare for psychopathy and face stomping.
We're in good hands.
A disarmed citizenry left to defend with cameras and You Tube.
Unbelievable.
A well-spoken citizen-crusader by the name of Randall Kelton, did the Alex Jones show today.
Guy basically said the silver bullet to corrupt prosecutors, cops and DAs who won't file charges against their own is to present allegations to a Grand Jury.
Kelton said the Grand Jury was created by the Founders to protect citizens from the people who are charged with their protection (corrupt Government officials etc).
Grand Jurys can hear allegations and make indictments directly from citizen testimony. Therefore, cuts out Government middle men that serve as Gatekeepers to prosecuting corrupt officials.
Kelton seemed to have a lot of experience bringing cops, prosecutors and even DA's before Grand Jurys.
Maybe theres hope after all.
http://ruleoflawradio.com/
http://www.jurisimprudence.com/
Guy basically said the silver bullet to corrupt prosecutors, cops and DAs who won't file charges against their own is to present allegations to a Grand Jury.
Kelton said the Grand Jury was created by the Founders to protect citizens from the people who are charged with their protection (corrupt Government officials etc).
Grand Jurys can hear allegations and make indictments directly from citizen testimony. Therefore, cuts out Government middle men that serve as Gatekeepers to prosecuting corrupt officials.
Kelton seemed to have a lot of experience bringing cops, prosecutors and even DA's before Grand Jurys.
Maybe theres hope after all.
http://ruleoflawradio.com/
http://www.jurisimprudence.com/
Quote from achilles28:
No, I'm just some guy that cares about the rights of ordinary citizens from getting vicious beatdowns by untouchable Law Enforcement Thugs.
There are some "citizens" that are far from "ordinary' Just curious, after "vicious beatdowns" broadcast in the media are people more inclined to "comply" with officers/law or have they decided to be abusive toward police.
Quote from nutmeg:
There are some "citizens" that are far from "ordinary' Just curious, after "vicious beatdowns" broadcast in the media are people more inclined to "comply" with officers/law or have they decided to be abusive toward police.
America is built on the Rule of Law and Rights of the Citizen.
Not thug-style intimidation tactics wield by a lawless band of Cops.
Retributive policing makes Cops judge, jury and executioner - the very definition of a Police State and the Tyrants our Founders rebelled from.
But maybe you like the idea of Police ruling over you.
What Country are you from?
Quote from nutmeg:
There are some "citizens" that are far from "ordinary' Just curious, after "vicious beatdowns" broadcast in the media are people more inclined to "comply" with officers/law or have they decided to be abusive toward police.
An interesting question, Mr Nutmeg, and one that remains unnadressed by most alleged thinking people.
It is a straightforward scientific fact, that severe violent trauma can cause psychosis, permanent physical injury, and even with the basic version of medical science that acknowledged shell shock as a physical reality 60 years ago, can cause long term and severe psychiatric issues.
So, what is the issue here? Does violent brutality, by the authorities, work IN society's favour?
I say no, because the simple fact that it not only causes crime, unaccountably, by default, but the very concept of due process, the reason these worthless thugs exist at all, is thrown out the window the second anyone says "oh, i heard from a cop they deserved it, so good enough for me".
This raises grave difficulties, as in christian terms, the average punter doesnt know squat about what they are actually supporting, not only casting stones, but hiding behind a veil of ignorance at the same time.
Recruiting malicious, cowardly, violent psychopaths to perform public duties, is bound, to result in problems, yet that is how it works.
Why is it psychopaths are overrepresented in Politics, Prison Systems, Law Enforcement and Media?
Because megalomaniacal face-stompers gravitate towards positions of power where they can stomp faces with impunity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy
Very similar to pedophiles that join Boy Scouts or become Kindergarten teachers.
Because megalomaniacal face-stompers gravitate towards positions of power where they can stomp faces with impunity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy
Very similar to pedophiles that join Boy Scouts or become Kindergarten teachers.
Recruiting malicious, cowardly, violent psychopaths to perform public duties, is bound, to result in problems, yet that is how it works.
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You may have the occasional psyhopath but they don't last long. I suggest we have the madness of crowd syndrome, the mob mentality in play.
In the effort to keep cops from being injured in one on one situations or where one officer is called for back up, the new procedure seems to be intimidation by a sea of blue.
These incidents seem to involve a half of dozen police to subdue one man. Mob rule prevails, it is reactive. They feed off each other in the stress of the moment.
Probably prodecure rules out one man arrests for liabiliity concerns. To us it reeks of thug rule/brute force. As was the case at the YFZ (show of force) subdue by visual intimidation.
I'm sure the Sean Bell 50 shot case was the result of no officers could be sure of who was firing. Each cop could have been firing in the air and no one would have been the wiser.
Which reminds me, maybe firing the warning shot, like in the old days wasn't such a bad idea.
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You may have the occasional psyhopath but they don't last long. I suggest we have the madness of crowd syndrome, the mob mentality in play.
In the effort to keep cops from being injured in one on one situations or where one officer is called for back up, the new procedure seems to be intimidation by a sea of blue.
These incidents seem to involve a half of dozen police to subdue one man. Mob rule prevails, it is reactive. They feed off each other in the stress of the moment.
Probably prodecure rules out one man arrests for liabiliity concerns. To us it reeks of thug rule/brute force. As was the case at the YFZ (show of force) subdue by visual intimidation.
I'm sure the Sean Bell 50 shot case was the result of no officers could be sure of who was firing. Each cop could have been firing in the air and no one would have been the wiser.
Which reminds me, maybe firing the warning shot, like in the old days wasn't such a bad idea.