Please HELP.... charts without a time component

tradeking007yahoo said:
time charts give me a standard frame of reference and thats why i like them
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Me 2
BUT a big problem is summer time/tick time/bloodsucking ticks/may not pay the same for a week of time....................................................................................[Sell in May/hey, simply can be lazy/snooze =lose with that pattern[
Another problem i have with 5 hour charts \ not really consistant or equal in time
Good points+ sitting @ a screen 12 hours/day72 hours a week ,all the timecan be a real killer /health
 
+2 on the tick charts, also watching the depth of market ladder is another great way to achieve what (I think) you’re after, it’s one of the things that makes it so useful (and partially nullifies the whole “why look at the depth of market moron?! It’s all spoofs and icebergs blah blah blah” argument). It’s a good way of displaying the price action, numbers on the levels aside (although those are still useful).

edit: and when I say tick charts I don’t mean volume bar charts (which can be useful) I mean charts that display each tick as a little dot. I’ve seen people refer to volume bar charts as tick charts so I just wanted to clarify.
 
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excrypto said:
Looks like OP hates Tom Demark and all his work. Or just doesn’t know that the sequential timing system works.
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TD Sequential works on all types of charts - including ticks/P&F/Momentum/Kase/Kagi/Range/Renko.

I stick with time myself.
 
tradeking007yahoo said:
i use time charts and you will run into the same problems with all the other charts with time or without time...range tick momentum whatever way you chart them will give you similar results because fundamentally if you are searching for new ways then you are not making money anymore etc.

my point is that usually it is the trading not the charts. lets look at a time chart say a 5 minute.
and this is my beef with price action.
we all look at different charts even if all running a 5 min bar.

when did that bar start? 9.30 9.30.02 i mean
you can starta 5 min bar whenever you want too and that can make a huge difference but no one talks about that and same with renko and tick charts. when do you start your chart??
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Well in ES RTH’s starts at 8:30 chicago time and stops at 3:15 fer abit. Doesn’t matter the TF..5 min...15..min...30 min...60 min...

on every traders platform there are 81 five min bars.

most all charts basically show the same patterns..it doesn’t matter....bar charts..candle charts...line charts...renko charts...

Time matters in the markets (at least according to mr gann). Price moves through the environment of time. There is a time for everything. Ecclesiastes 3:1-8. Read it clarity will come.
 
MacroInterest2020 said:
Is it [or would it be] possible to construct charts without time. The markets or markets do not understand time. It is buy or sell, right? Demand and Supply.

If you use point and figure charts or reversal charts wouldn't you capture more of the harmonics of the market? [The market you are trading is like a living organism ( a breathing chest) it your running up stairs it will breather harder and faster than if you are sitting still]

What chart construct would capture this best?

thanks
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There is something like volume charts. Say 1000 contracts. Every 1000 contracts traded a bar will be created. If many bars in a short time, that means brisk trading. I think I used it in Tradestation. But I do not remember now. I busted the tradestation account and I am trading a small account in robinhood with tradingview charts. Hope this helps
 
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