Please DO NOT ASK AGAIN WHY

[hapaboy]

Quote from rowenwood:

I REALLY DON'T CARE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. BUT PEOPLE JUDGE PEOPLE according TO THEIR ACTIONS.

What an incredibly astute observation.

MY incorporation, DONATION, OF A NPO STATES MY PASSION INTENT AND HONOR.

Even if you have indeed made some sort of charitable contribution, what good is it if you exult in the death of toddlers? Furthermore, the fact that you have to boast about such perceived qualities only exemplifies your insecurity.

I NEVER SAID THAT THEIR DEATHS WERE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

You reveled in their deaths, took satisfaction in them, gloated about them, which means they were "good" deaths to you, your definition of which is environmentally friendly.

WHY WOULD I, I DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

Oh, but apparently you do. You assert as much by saying: THEY WERE OFFERED AND ADVISED TO LEAVE THE CITY. You further exaggerate your knowledge of the circumstances by stating that I do not: "YOU CAN'T EVEN DEDUCE THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF DEAD CHILDREN VERY WELL."

However, the fundamental flaw in your "argument" is that we are of course discussing children,who are wholly reliant on their parents. Their parents may very well have been advised or offered to leave the city; it does not mean the children were capable of doing it on their own. Good grief, we're talking about infants here, whom you apparently believe are wholly capable of making rational judgements and acting upon them. Of course they are not, and are thus innocent in this affair as they are in all wars and conflicts.

LOL, YOU'RE CORRECT, ABOUT THE FOREST PART, CONGRATULATIONS.....

I need no praise for pointing out the obvious - that you care more for a patch of mango trees than a helpless human life.

GOOD JOB FOR ONCE AN ACCURATE ASSUMPTION.....USE THAT PEDANTIC ABILITY OF YOURS TO CONSTRUCT STATEMENTS THAT MAINTAIN IN THIS DEBATE A LEVEL DECORUM..

Decorum? Of the two of us, I have exhibited far more of it than you. Admittedly, that's not saying much, but what the hell.

I WAS RAISED IN MARIN county GIVEN THE FINEST OF EVERYTHING.

Everything material, apparently, but not not the really important things, such as a regard for others. Morals. Your parents failed miserably in that regard. I wonder if they're even aware of it. An effete snob lacking compassion. They did a hell of a job.

I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED YOUR FLAW OR S, AND THE WHOLE PICTURE.

Regarding my flaws you have only written unfounded epithets. As for the whole picture, you have done nothing.

I'VE ALREADY.

Prove it. Exhibit your greatness to us. Post your art. Share your magnificence! Perhaps you will gain more of a following...

WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOURS.

I loathe myself for arguing with fanatics, but sometimes I just can't help it. My self-esteem would improve considerably if I didn't, for I often find myself sinking almost to their level, as I am with you. More recently, I blew the opportunity to buy calls on FRNT when it was bouncing off support at $9. That really hurt.

HOW CUTE, WHAT A NICE STRING OF WORDS.

Fluff. Of course you fail to deny that you blatantly made up words and attributed them to me. Another flaw of yours - you are a liar.

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AESTHETIC OPINIONS.

I know as much about opining as you do.

THANKS FOR REPEATING TO ME, THE THOUGHTS OF OTHERS. THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME THINGS I'VE HEARD TIMES BEFORE.

What has that have to do with defining "contribute" in the context you placed it in? So what if you've heard it before? If you make vague assertions, you can expect to be asked to elaborate. But of course you know this, you merely avoid the question as you have many others. Coward.

WOW.

GEE WHISKERS.

LOL

Your rebuttals are staggering.

I GUESS YOU DIDN'T GET BEYOND PSYCHO 101.

Nah, they threw me out after they discovered I have a conscience.

ADULTS LEARN TO BETTER mimic THEIR PEERS. UNLESS THEY ARE LUCKY enough O BE BORN WITH MY TYPE OF PERSONALITY IN WHICH CASE THEY START THE POSE THAT THE OTHERS COPY.

If our species is fortunate, you will be copied with the regularity of a eunuch having sex.

IF YOU ACTUALLY KNEW ME, YOU WOULDN'T THINK ANY OF THESE THINGS.

I don't care to know you. It is enough to judge you, as you said, by your actions.

YOU LOVE ME.

I love that you are very far away from me, and that we are separated by cyberspace.

ARE YOU TRYING TO HURT MY FEELINGS?

One cannot hurt that which does not exist.

OBVIOUSLY YOU FEEL VERY THREATENED BY MY STATEMENTS AND JUDGEMENTS OF YOU.

Incorrect semantics.

I ANNOY YOU.

Correct semantics.

BUT FOR ME THIS IS MORE OF AN EXERCISE OF MY ENGLISH SKILLS THAN A COMPETITION OF LOGIC.

If that is true, you need extensive further training. Learning to spell correctly would be a good start.

WHEN IT COMES TO LOGIC I WON BEFORE WE EVEN BEGAN TO INTERACT.

Your opinion = your logic.

I MAY BE A PSYCHO THAT CARES ABOUT TREES MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE, BUT YOU'RE NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING THAT DECISION BECAUSE YOU DON'T DEDUCE PROPERLY.

You have already admitted to it. What is left to deduce? That you are lying again?

I'M GLAD TO READ THAT YOU WORK FOR THE PRESERVATION OF A MARINE ENVIRONMENT. BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR... I JUDGE THAT YOU'RE WORTH YOUR LIFE, AND I THANK YOU.

Please don't justify my existence merely because I try to preserve the marine environment. It is as shallow as saying your life is worth something because you claim to be an artist.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from electron:

This is war, people do not act the same as during peaceful times. Thats why wars should be avoided at all costs because they bring out all the evil in humans.

What you fail to understand is that sometimes wars are necessary, and failing to fight them can be worse than not fighting.

What would the world be like if Hitler was allowed to invade and conquer unchecked?

Keep those synapses firing.

 

[rowenwood]

Quote from hapaboy:

What an incredibly astute observation.

AT TIMES I'M UNCERTAIN OF WHAT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU OR NOT.


Even if you have indeed made some sort of charitable contribution, what good is it if you exult in the death of toddlers? Furthermore, the fact that you have to boast about such perceived qualities only exemplifies your insecurity.

WHAT YOU PERCIEVED TO BE EXULTATION WAS MY ACCEPTANCE OF THE SITUATION.


You reveled in their deaths, took satisfaction in them, gloated about them, which means they were "good" deaths to you, your definition of which is environmentally friendly.

NO, THAT'S INCORRECT.

Oh, but apparently you do. You assert as much by saying: THEY WERE OFFERED AND ADVISED TO LEAVE THE CITY. You further exaggerate your knowledge of the circumstances by stating that I do not: "YOU CAN'T EVEN DEDUCE THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF DEAD CHILDREN VERY WELL."

NO, EVEN AFTER MY EXTENSIVE SCHOOLING YOU CANNOT DEDUCE THE SITUTATION WITH COMPLETE LOGIC. YOU'RE STILL SENTIMENTALIZING OVER THEM.


However, the fundamental flaw in your "argument" is that we are of course discussing children,who are wholly reliant on their parents. Their parents may very well have been advised or offered to leave the city; it does not mean the children were capable of doing it on their own. Good grief, we're talking about infants here, whom you apparently believe are wholly capable of making rational judgements and acting upon them. Of course they are not, and are thus innocent in this affair as they are in all wars and conflicts.

I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS
AGAIN. IF YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND.

I need no praise for pointing out the obvious - that you care more for a patch of mango trees than a helpless human life.

I'M JUST HONEST. AS YOU'RE FEEBLE OVER DEAD CHILDREN, I'M SENTIMENTAL, YET WITH MORE LOGIC, OVER A GROUP OF TREES. MAYBE WE'RE BOTH HUMANITARIANS, I KNOW I'M.

Decorum? Of the two of us, I have exhibited far more of it than you. Admittedly, that's not saying much, but what the hell.

NO, YOU FORCING ME TO REPEAT MYSELF IS QUITE UNHONORABLE. YOU SEE WE CAN'T GO FORWARD IN THIS DEBATE BECAUSE YOUR BASIS FOR, OR OF, LOGIC DOESN'T MATCH MINE.

Everything material, apparently, but not not the really important things, such as a regard for others. Morals. Your parents failed miserably in that regard. I wonder if they're even aware of it. An effete snob lacking compassion. They did a hell of a job.

NO I WAS RAISED TO THINK FOR MYSELF. MY PARENTS NEVER FORCED THEIR IDEOLOGIES ON ME; NO RELIGION AND NO GENERALIZTIONS.

Regarding my flaws you have only written unfounded epithets. As for the whole picture, you have done nothing.

I'VE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU REFUSE TO REMEMBER.

Prove it. Exhibit your greatness to us. Post your art. Share your magnificence! Perhaps you will gain more of a following...

I'VE DISPLAYED MY ART FOR ALL TO SEE. FIND THE POSTS, THEY'RE HERE AT ET.

IN THE PROCESS MAYBE YOU'LL LEARN SOMETHING, AND ONCE YOU FIND ELDORADO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BETTER COMPREHEND ME.


I loathe myself for arguing with fanatics, but sometimes I just can't help it. My self-esteem would improve considerably if I didn't, for I often find myself sinking almost to their level, as I am with you. More recently, I blew the opportunity to buy calls on FRNT when it was bouncing off support at $9. That really hurt.

YOU MUST TRULY LOATHE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU DEDICATE MORE THAN AN HOUR TO ARGUING EVERYDAY?


Fluff. Of course you fail to deny that you blatantly made up words and attributed them to me. Another flaw of yours - you are a liar.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WIN THIS DEBATE.

I know as much about opining as you do.

MY SPELLING ERRORS YOU SPEAK OFF, ARE NOW YOUR'S. MAYBE YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING TO BE ARTISTICALLY IGNORANT. FROM THE POSTS I'VE READ
YOUR BEST CHANCE OF EXPRESSING YOURSELF ARTISTICALLY SEEMS TO BE THROUGH THE SELECTION OF ITEMS ONE CAN BUY IN STORES, BE THEY PAINTINGS OR A PARTICULARLY COLORED SHIRT.


What has that have to do with defining "contribute" in the context you placed it in? So what if you've heard it before? If you make vague assertions, you can expect to be asked to elaborate. But of course you know this, you merely avoid the question as you have many others. Coward.


YOU KNOW DAMN WELL I'M NOT A COWARD, AND USING THE ADJECTIVES OR INVECTIVES I USED TO DESCRIBE TO TO BELITTLE MYSELF IS PATHETIC. ANOTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME IS, I CAN ADMIT WHEN I'M WRONG, YOU CAN'T. THIS MEANS THAT I'VE MORE INTELLIGENCE AND MORE SELF CONFIDENCE THAN YOU.

Your rebuttals are staggering.

OBVIOUSLY.

Nah, they threw me out after they discovered I have a conscience.

SO KEEP YOUR FRIVOLOUSLY FORMULATED OPINIONS ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOT ENOUGH ABOUT TO YOURSELF. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF YOUR LACK OF DECORUM: THE WILLINGNESS TO WRITE ANYTHING THAT MAY ASSIST YOUR DEAD CHILDREN CAUSE.

If our species is fortunate, you will be copied with the regularity of a eunuch having sex.

ANOTHER CUTE ONE, BUT YES MY PERSONALITY TYPE IS RARE.



I don't care to know you. It is enough to judge you, as you said, by your actions.

MAYBE WE CAN BE FRIENDS AFTER ALL.


I love that you are very far away from me, and that we are separated by cyberspace.

REALLY, I HAD NO IDEA.

One cannot hurt that which does not exist.

TRYING TO USE MY IDEAS AGAINST ME AGAIN. YOUR INSECUTIRY MAY BE BASED ON YOUR LACK OF IDENTITY. TAKE AN ART CLASS AND LEARN WHAT YOU APPARENTLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO, THINK CREATIVELY.

Incorrect semantics.

YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED TO USE THE WORD SEMANTICS.

Correct semantics.

ANOTHER ACCURATE STATEMENT.

If that is true, you need extensive further training. Learning to spell correctly would be a good start.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXTENSIVE REITERATIONS, THOUGH YOU'RE CORRECT AGAIN. I'M ONLY A SOPHMORE IN COLLEGE, AND I'VE ONLY TAKEN ONE ENGLISH CLASS THUS FAR.

Your opinion = your logic.

VERY GOOD.

You have already admitted to it. What is left to deduce? That you are lying again?

IF I WERE A LIAR I'D GIVE NO INFO THAT MY OPPONENT COULD USE OR ATTEMPT TO USE AGAINST ME. IF THIS LOGIC IS TRUE THEN I'M NOT A LIAR BUT YOU'RE.

Please don't justify my existence merely because I try to preserve the marine environment. It is as shallow as saying your life is worth something because you claim to be an artist.


IT'S PROBABLY JUST A JOB TO YOU.

 

[rowenwood]

Quote from hapaboy:

What you fail to understand is that sometimes wars are necessary, and failing to fight them can be worse than not fighting.

What would the world be like if Hitler was allowed to invade and conquer unchecked?

Keep those synapses firing.

GOSH HAPABOY, YOU WRITE WITH SUCH AUTHORITY. I'M PLEASED TO KNOW HOW SELF-RIGHTEOUS YOU'RE. IN THAT WE'RE ALIKE. HITLER WAS SELF-RIGHTEOUS TOO- HIS SELF- RIGHTEOUSNESS WAS DIFFERENT TO YOURS, BUT IT WAS STILL A JUDGEMENT BASED ON OPINIONS, AND THEN FORCED ONTO OTHER PEOPLE.

JUDGEMENTS MUST BE MADE, BUT WHEN PEOPLE WITH YOUR LACK OF LOGIC, AND WITH YOUR INTENSITITY OF
GOD LOGIC GAIN POWER, ODD THINGS OCCUR.

MAYBE YOU'RE A MEGALOMANIAC TOO.

 

[rowenwood]

I want you to know that I respect your academic ability and your occupation. I do think you think at an above average level, but really, you lost this debate after your first post which explained your sentiment.

I can see that you're a very proud person. So proud in fact that you're unwilling to admit you're wrong. This lack gives me reason to think that you're afraid, and lacking in self confidence, and thus, because you 're afraid you're a coward, and cowards are liars. Sorry.

But I do respect your vocabulary and writing abilities, even though beyond basic communication your writing skills are worthless. And, but don't feel bad, you're good enough to be proud, and you've worked long enough to think of yourself as a respectable citizen.

PS, I hope you don't use a thesaurus.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from rowenwood:

AT TIMES I'M UNCERTAIN OF WHAT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU OR NOT.

You write words (often misspelled) but "explain" very little.

WHAT YOU PERCIEVED TO BE EXULTATION WAS MY ACCEPTANCE OF THE SITUATION.

LOL! Calling dead children pathetic, parasites, etc. is exultation of the worst kind.

NO, EVEN AFTER MY EXTENSIVE SCHOOLING YOU CANNOT DEDUCE THE SITUTATION WITH COMPLETE LOGIC. YOU'RE STILL SENTIMENTALIZING OVER THEM.

I feel compassion for them. You do not. And your basis, your "logic" regarding why you described them as you did continues to be absent from any of your posts. Quite simply, you opened your mouth and got called on it, and you are unable to respond cogently.

I'M JUST HONEST. AS YOU'RE FEEBLE OVER DEAD CHILDREN, I'M SENTIMENTAL, YET WITH MORE LOGIC, OVER A GROUP OF TREES. MAYBE WE'RE BOTH HUMANITARIANS, I KNOW I'M.

Choosing a tree or two over a paralyzed human being is not humanitarian.

NO, YOU FORCING ME TO REPEAT MYSELF IS QUITE UNHONORABLE. YOU SEE WE CAN'T GO FORWARD IN THIS DEBATE BECAUSE YOUR BASIS FOR, OR OF, LOGIC DOESN'T MATCH MINE.

No, what I don't match of yours is a contempt, bordering on hatred, of our species.

NO I WAS RAISED TO THINK FOR MYSELF. MY PARENTS NEVER FORCED THEIR IDEOLOGIES ON ME; NO RELIGION AND NO GENERALIZTIONS.

And no morals. Bravo for them.

I'VE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU REFUSE TO REMEMBER.

Feeble excuse. When the coward cannot answer directly, he avoids the issue altogether.

I'VE DISPLAYED MY ART FOR ALL TO SEE. FIND THE POSTS, THEY'RE HERE AT ET.

No thanks. Why should I waste more time searching your posts? If you have posted them, show the link.

YOU MUST TRULY LOATHE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU DEDICATE MORE THAN AN HOUR TO ARGUING EVERYDAY?

I do argue over many issues, i.e. water quality control, mixing zones, etc. I do not loathe myself because of it.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN WIN THIS DEBATE.

This is no longer a debate. If it were, I won in its infancy. It is now becoming a tiresome flame war, brought about by your evasiveness.

MY SPELLING ERRORS YOU SPEAK OFF, ARE NOW YOUR'S.

o·pine
v. o·pined, o·pin·ing, o·pines
v. tr.
To state as an opinion.

You lose. Again.

MAYBE YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING TO BE ARTISTICALLY IGNORANT. FROM THE POSTS I'VE READ YOUR BEST CHANCE OF EXPRESSING YOURSELF ARTISTICALLY SEEMS TO BE THROUGH THE SELECTION OF ITEMS ONE CAN BUY IN STORES, BE THEY PAINTINGS OR A PARTICULARLY COLORED SHIRT.

LOL!

YOU KNOW DAMN WELL I'M NOT A COWARD, AND USING THE ADJECTIVES OR INVECTIVES I USED TO DESCRIBE TO TO BELITTLE MYSELF IS PATHETIC. ANOTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME IS, I CAN ADMIT WHEN I'M WRONG, YOU CAN'T. THIS MEANS THAT I'VE MORE INTELLIGENCE AND MORE SELF CONFIDENCE THAN YOU.

You have a patent on the word "coward"? My, my, you are a work of, um, art. Pun intended.

SO KEEP YOUR FRIVOLOUSLY FORMULATED OPINIONS ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOT ENOUGH ABOUT TO YOURSELF. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF YOUR LACK OF DECORUM: THE WILLINGNESS TO WRITE ANYTHING THAT MAY ASSIST YOUR DEAD CHILDREN CAUSE.

I have no cause other than to request that you fully explain and rationalize your description of the dead children. That or admit you were wrong to say it. You evade the issue over and over is your fault, not mine.

ANOTHER CUTE ONE, BUT YES MY PERSONALITY TYPE IS RARE.

And the world is better for it. No doubt those who must interact with you on a daily basis are grateful that your personality disorder is not malignant.

TRYING TO USE MY IDEAS AGAINST ME AGAIN.

Another patent?

YOUR INSECUTIRY MAY BE BASED ON YOUR LACK OF IDENTITY. TAKE AN ART CLASS AND LEARN WHAT YOU APPARENTLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO, THINK CREATIVELY.

Like you? ROFL!

YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED TO USE THE WORD SEMANTICS.

You didn't confuse it with Semites, did you?

ANOTHER ACCURATE STATEMENT.

Thank you for lauding my accuracy.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXTENSIVE REITERATIONS, THOUGH YOU'RE CORRECT AGAIN. I'M ONLY A SOPHMORE IN COLLEGE, AND I'VE ONLY TAKEN ONE ENGLISH CLASS THUS FAR.

ROFL! This explains much. Very much, most notably your arrogance and immaturity . Apparently your years of English class in high school, middle school, and elementary availed you to naught. You're a walking poster child for the educational reform movement.

IF I WERE A LIAR I'D GIVE NO INFO THAT MY OPPONENT COULD USE OR ATTEMPT TO USE AGAINST ME.

Another lie, for I have quoted your lies extensively, i.e. attributing statements to me that I did not make. Your refusal to address them only makes your falsehoods more apparent.

IT'S PROBABLY JUST A JOB TO YOU.

Some days it does feel that way. You'll learn eventually when you get a job and cease suckling from your parents' teats. I can say that because I did not have to rely on them to pay for my education, and worked 30 - 35 hours a week while in school. Are you working, on scholarship, or is daddy financing the whole grand experience + living expenses? If it is the middle or latter of those, you should be getting straight A's. I don't know about your other subjects, but your English professor is, I'm sure, appalled.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from rowenwood:

GOSH HAPABOY, YOU WRITE WITH SUCH AUTHORITY. I'M PLEASED TO KNOW HOW SELF-RIGHTEOUS YOU'RE. IN THAT WE'RE ALIKE. HITLER WAS SELF-RIGHTEOUS TOO- HIS SELF- RIGHTEOUSNESS WAS DIFFERENT TO YOURS, BUT IT WAS STILL A JUDGEMENT BASED ON OPINIONS, AND THEN FORCED ONTO OTHER PEOPLE.

LOL! Is this the best you can do? Wait, I forgot, you're a sophomore in college.

JUDGEMENTS MUST BE MADE, BUT WHEN PEOPLE WITH YOUR LACK OF LOGIC, AND WITH YOUR INTENSITITY OF
GOD LOGIC GAIN POWER, ODD THINGS OCCUR.

Intensity of god logic.....interesting. I could explain how far removed I am from god logic, but it would only serve to feed your paranoia.

MAYBE YOU'RE A MEGALOMANIAC TOO.

Maybe. And maybe you wear women's clothing. Anything is possible.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from rowenwood:

I want you to know that I respect your academic ability and your occupation. I do think you think at an above average level, but really, you lost this debate after your first post which explained your sentiment.

Blah, blah, blah. And you complain about recycling verbiage.

I can see that you're a very proud person. So proud in fact that you're unwilling to admit you're wrong. This lack gives me reason to think that you're afraid, and lacking in self confidence, and thus, because you 're afraid you're a coward, and cowards are liars. Sorry.

I have been wrong about many things in my life, and have consistently admitted to them. And I've learned that pride is often dangerous. But believe what you will, or must, in order to salvage what little self-esteem you do possess.

But I do respect your vocabulary and writing abilities, even though beyond basic communication your writing skills are worthless.

My writing "skills," if you will, have been very helpful in gaining employment. Not because they are exceptional (I know they are not), but because so many products of our educational system write and speak at the same level you do. In this regard, at least, you are very mainstream.

Perhaps this partly explains your obsession with art. You are lacking in one aspect, and hope to compensate by believing yourself exceptional in another.

PS, I hope you don't use a thesaurus.

Sometimes I do, but I certainly have had no need for one thus far in our exchanges.

P.S. I encourage you to use a dictionary.

P.S.S. Good luck with college.

 

[BSAM]

Quote from hapaboy:

.....My writing "skills," if you will, have been very helpful in gaining employment. Not because they are exceptional (I know they are not), but because so many products of our educational system write and speak at the same level you do. In this regard, at least, you are very mainstream......
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If English is a second language for rowenwood, then my following gesture is inappropriate and I apologize in advance. Otherwise:

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from BSAM:

If English is a second language for rowenwood, then my following gesture is inappropriate and I apologize in advance. Otherwise:

Quote from rowenwood:

I WAS RAISED IN MARIN COUNTY GIVEN THE FINEST OF EVERYTHING

Unless I am mistaken, the official language of Marin County, California, is English.

Perhaps rowenwood chose instead to be raised speaking Urdu, in order to be "rare" and not "mainstream." Ya know, to attract chics with his mysterious aspect.